RE: On special request

The site doesn’t work, Arthur.

Krijg toch allemaal de klere, val voor mijn part allemaal dood 😀 }> Siske de rat lol

On special request

For arthur, don’t bang your head against the wall if you want to get the song out of your head

Het werd zomer – Rob de Nijs
‘t Leek al zomer, toch was het pas eind mei
Zo’n dag waarvan je denkt “die gaat niet meer voorbij”
M’n vrienden kwamen langs maar ik wilde alleen
Aan het strand wat wandelen, zomaar nergens heen

Toen zag ik jou, je riep me met je ogen
Ik keek je aan, en kreeg een vreemd gevoel
Want ik begreep wat jij me wilde vragen
Kom dichterbij me

Ik was zestien, en jij was achtentwintig
En van de liefde wist ik nog niet veel
Maar ik begreep wat jij me wilde zeggen
Ik was geen kind meer
En het werd zomer (zomer)

Je was zo vrij, ik vond het eerst een beetje raar
Je droeg niets anders dan je lange blonde haar
Ik was verlegen en wist niet wat te doen
Ik stond er maar te kijken, oh wat voelde ik me groen
“Ik begrijp ‘t”, hoorde ik je zeggen
Je bent zo jong nog, en weet niet wat je moet
Wees maar niet bang, de nacht zal ‘t je leren
Kom dichterbij me

We liepen samen verder langs ‘t strand
En als een jongen pakte ik je hand
Maar als een man zag ik de zon weer opgaan
En ‘t werd zomer (zomer)
‘t Werd zomer (zomer)

‘t Werd zomer, voor ‘t eerst in heel m’n leven
‘t Werd zomer, de allereerste keer
En ik was een man toen de zon weer opkwam
En ‘t werd zomer (zomer)
En ‘t werd zomer
Toen was het zomer

RE: National Music

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-08-02 AT 08:23 PM (GMT)]Hé man, golding earring is super 5When the lady smiles)!!!!! And so is vader Abraham, men, we grew up with him.

Also I meant pop music, sorry for not mentionning it before, because Adama and Brell are maybe two excellent singers for their kind of music, I really don’t listen to their songs.

You forgot to add Vengaboys to that list. Their songs were on the radio thousands of times untill I became crack-nut and started jumping … ohh now, wait .. not that song!!! NOOO NOW my head is also full of crappy music 😀

You should also be hated for Rob De Nijs lol … Ik was zestien 😀

RE: Iraqi Invitation

Don’t worry you get used to it }>

RE: Not insensitive, but realistic.

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-08-02 AT 07:42 PM (GMT)]@ Kevin,

>Geforce,
>
>I like you, I like our discussions. Most of the time you
>come across as intelligent beyond your years, but this time
>I have to disagree. First of all, please forgive me if I get
>heated, it is nothing personal against you but this is a
>topic which is drawing strong emotions among many people.

Don’t worry, I can get some criticism, if it is justified. But what I said is still my own personnal opinion. I don’t expect people to understand my point of view, as long as they respect it. None of what I said so far in this discussion is shocking or appaling.

>No! Many people feel, rightly or wrongly, that they have
>become personally involved in this case. This is two young
>girls from a small community who were well known in that
>community. They have no history of running away from home or
>disappearing for a prank. After a happy family occasion they
>went for a walk, together. They should be safe enough, it’s
>a small enough village. They weren’t, and many people from
>the community expended their time and energy in a fruitless
>search and emotional appeals for their safe return.

Sorry for being harsh, but I would say wrongly. Whatever may have happened to those small children (which is a tragedy ofcourse, make no mistakes about it), there are only a few people personally involved. The other ones are leaded by false emotions, which will disappear once this whole media-circus will be over. (Believe me, I’m talking about experience, ask Frank if you want verification). The people from the community have done whatever they could, and they need psychological help. There are maybe 100 people directly involved in this. But if someone who lives 100 km away from Soham can’t sleep from it at night, than there’s really something wrong. I just can’t/don’t believe it. It’s also strange that the whole village now needs psychological help.

>Including the man accused of their murder.

Yep, and you know why they catched him. Because he was too directly involved, he knew too much to be an outsider.

>Thirteen days went by before the police made their breakthrough. >Thirteen days in which much of this country hoped and prayed for a
>happy resolution.

Same happened here, some girls are already missing for 10 years now! Nobody cared before Dutroux came, because most of these children were from ‘poor’ workershomes. But when Anthony Declerck, son of big industrial and nephew of the former minister of the Justice Dept, was kidnapped for a ransom, the whole nation was in shock. What has happened? The Kidnappers got a life sentence, even though I don’t think it was needed in this case. (the boy even gained some kilograms while he was gone, meaning he was treated very good, unlike the other children).

>We don’t know how long the girls were held
>before they were killed, or how they died or the agonies and
>the terror they went through before their deaths.

True, and I can imagine what it must have been for the victims and the relatives. The 6 Belgian girls were kept in a cellar for 6 months, and they died from lack of food and water (which is probably the worst death you can imagine).

[link:http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/3877/Dutroux.html|Click here for more information on Dutroux]

>In the light of these events, how can you say the grief and
>expressions of sympathy from across the world are nothing
>more than it being the result of a ‘slow news week’? Gef,
>I’m almost certain you are not the heartless individual that
>this post makes you appear.

OK, I was wrong, not in the British press, but it’s strange that these things were also widely discussed in the foreign press, eventhough this is a national matter I would guess. The press does not care about emotions, they will report whatever they think may attract people.

>Now, we have a situation in which the man accused of their
>murder has been detained under the Mental Health Act in a
>secure hospital. The police have said he has not spoken
>since his arrest and spends his time ‘dribbling constantly.’
>The inference at present is that he is mentally ill and
>there is some debate about whether he will be fit enough to
>stand trial. He, himself, made an emotional appeal for the
>girls return almost certainly after their deaths. Was he
>dribbling then? No, not until he was caught.

Yeah, that’s ofcourse complete BS. Dutroux also said he tried to prevent the girls deaths, blaming his companion. This guy is a psycho, he should be kept in the prison or in a secure hospital for the rest of his days.

>If it is conclusively proved he is guilty of their abduction and
>murder then he deserves to die, and for the first time in my
>life I believe I could kill someone without any compunction.

No you won’t. Many people would like to see him death, but do you wanna see him die, that’s the question or even worse, would you pull the trigger? Believe me, in 2 months, you won’t talk anymore like this, you’ll probably just say: I hope he’s punished severe and let the police do its work.

>Please, don’t presume to know or understand the depth of
>feeling which has been triggered by this case in the UK.

I understand it 200 % because I grew up in such a mentality. When the Dutroux-crisis was in full afterburner, I was 12 years old, meaning everyone in my community was worried, afraid and so on. I’ve had a safe childhood I must say, and I never felt afraid. 6 years ago the whole nation stood still, it was more shocking than IX-XI for most Belgians (who could ever think this could happen in such small villages in one of the safest countries in the world).

>You admit to being probably insensitive? I’m sorry but the tone
>of your last post indicates an almost sinister level of
>cynicism in someone so young.

You are right, there’s a lot of cynicism in my latest posts. AFAIK, cynicism is not something bad, it’s just trying to get a neutral view on this whole situation.

>Regards,
>
>kev35

Same from me ofcourse. 🙂

RE: Alexander The Great

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-08-02 AT 03:38 PM (GMT)]Reminds me of mount Rushmore … yugh 😀

Not insensitive, but realistic.

Probably insensitive, but also realistic, Snowman. It’s obvious that these stories are widely reported in the British and foreign press because there’s not much other news to talk about. If there would have been a war in Iraq, nobody would know about this incident. The press knows how to work on people’s emotions. In the Dutroux-case, it even went that far that the gov’t had to put a ban on some newsprograms for a while, because they were making the public angry (sometimes with reasons, sometimes without). I still remember the immage of a yelling crowd when Dutroux entered the police station. Now these same people probably don’t even know why they did it … rediculous.

PS Sorry for the bad spelling and grammatic faults in my last post, I should work on it, but typing goes to fast.