Cees, your bombbay and throttle pics.
The throttle box is enclosed so there is not much to see. From the front(pic 2) you can see the control rods dropping down and then they run rearwards in the tunnel(pic 3) under the seat. The sketch might help.
The bombbay is ‘black on black’ and very difficult to get much detail. Some shots of the hinge mechanisms. They intend to make the doors operable and they are working on the hydraulics.
Someone wanted some u/c details, that too is ‘black on black’. We set the oleos to simulate a loaded condition. One shot shows the u/c bay rear and the other the front. We are working on the bungee emergency lowering gear at the moment. The brake hoses have been added. Hope these are useful.
Hmmm! I guess the pics got lost!
I tried again, but they just will not attach!
Deryck
I talked to Stu Thow about the intended finish on the Bomb Aimer’s seat/cushion for NA 337 and he said that the finish was specified as Black leather with a ‘Duck’ (?) finish.
Hi Cees, I doubt they will be thrown out, but who knows when the project is completed and new folks move in needing drawing storage space!Right now the detail finishing of the interior is going on, oxygen piping, radios etc etc. There certainly are pics of the throttle box that were taken during the restoration, unfortunately the guy that took them has just had a knee op and will not be back for a while. I will see what I can find.
Deryck
Hi Peter, They apparently did not use the prop hub from Nanton on NA 337. It appears to be still there, when I asked about it they thought they might be using it to demonstrate in a static display how the Hydramatic pitch change worked. If you want it back, now would be a good time to ask as Bill Tytula is driving out West on July 1st.
Deryck
Cees, Do Turretboy’s pictures give you what you need? Let me know if you need any more detail of anything.
Deryck
Back earlier in the thread someone asked the time required to restore NA 337, it was 10 years and a couple of months and some 350,000 manhours. The cost of the materials involved was about $1.0M.
Federal Government funding was received (I seem to recollect around $300,000.) to help with the recovery, which was done by Dacom Sea Sub, the remainder was raised from donations by the public, only one restoration member was a paid employee to oversee the work on the majority of the project, one other was paid to help restore the main spar. The value of the volunteer labour was estimated at around $9.0M.
Interesting, in North Bedfordshire we lived under the ‘beam’ route to the Industrial Midlands, like Coventry and Birmingham and the Luftwaffe bomber stream was continuous. Occasionaly one would dump his bombs but generally it was very quiet. On moonlight nights we used to lie outside on the grass and try to see the aircraft cross the moon. Never did see one!The Duxford site is good, must get my kid to have a look at it.
Hi Aeronut, Sorry, my error, it was circ. not diameter. I understand that ‘circumferences’ are still how ropes are measured today. We were checking the current ratings for nylon ropes of the sizes stated and it is in the 30,000lb range, whereas the I calculated that the 200cwt would have been around 22,000lbs, I guess they have developed the nylon strands to a higher level. We are now searching through the Naval arm of the service for a suitable length of 4 1/4″ circ. piece of rope and hopefully someone to splice a terminal loop into it for us.(The original info we received from a vet. was the rope was 4 1/2″ diameter! The number was close except it was circ., not dia.)
Thanks for your help.
Deryck
Hey, really nice job Halibag-Phil. Cees he has set the bar quite high! You are going to have to do a lot of work to beat that. Are they Airfix, 1/72″ scale?
Cees, the guys are reinstalling the heater ducts right now, they could have used the model as a guide!
Deryck
OK, I have asked the question of the engine guys, I will twist their tails next week and see what they say!
Was it you or Halibag-Phil who was asking for Halifax escape hatch details during the winter months when I was in Florida?
Hi Peter, I don’t know. We all work our own little patch on the restorations and I only talk to the engine guys during a break. I could find out if it is important.
Hi Bazv, I learned on the winch but we eventually had to switch to airtow as the winch took up too much real estate and the cable seemed to find all the telephone and power lines in the area. I eventually became an instructor and then the CFI hence the large number of flights. Lots of fun sitting there and watching students get them selves in trouble!
Hi Turretboy, I am not closely involved with the RCAF serial number research, that is a Frank Artes project he is a volunteer from the ‘front office’. From him I understand that from the manufacturer’s fuselage nameplate they have been able to establish the date of the Anson being taken ‘on charge’ but it was one of several taken on charge on that date so the selection of RCAF Serial will probably be made from those on that list that were assigned to Western bases. However politics always raises it head and who knows! After all if they tried to make the Halifax, NA 337, into a B. Mk. III to suit some of the vets who, no doubt, would have wanted it to carry their squadron markings, they will certainly try to influence the Anson serial. Fortunately I was the editor of the Halibag News at the time and I was able to raise a considerable groundswell of support to restore it, rather than construct a replica. Some of the Restoration Team supported me by saying they would quit if the change was mandated! Needless to say I was soon removed as the editor!
Cees, I do not think that LW 170 will be an easy recovery. (I assume that is Karl’s latest project.) It is in salt water and the damage done by fresh water was bad enough I dread to think what salt water would have done to it. Knowing what time and effort (Over 300,000 manhours and $1.0M for materiels.)went into NA 337 I really cannot see anyone who knows the numbers coming forward with the necessary funds!
A lot of the vets are passing on and the incentive to start this kind of project is dropping off, along with the support.
Thanks Aeronut, that is far more info than we have been able to obtain. We had heard that the rope was 4 1/2 in diameter, but the tug end release fitting, shown in the Airborne Forces Manual, does not seem capable of being able to get a rope of that dia through it, 3 5/8 maybe, but 4 1/4 very doubtful. A 300 foot long 4 1/4 dia rope could be a serious weapon when dropped! Any info on how the rope was terminated on the release fitting, spliced?