Avion Ancien, I checked through both of our Anson manuals and although the have info on the Trailing Antenna they do not mention the amount of antenna line carried. The radios in use were the usual T1154/R1155.
I checked with a couple of our wireless guys and they said the amount of antenna lowered was a function of the frequency they intended to use. As to the amount of antenna on the drum – they guessed at around 300feet.
Just for the record, the Anson Mk I has a steel tube fuselage with a fabric covering and one piece wooden wings.
The Anson Mk V has a moulded wood fuselage and 3 piece wooden wings.
The amount of trailing antenna let out depended upon the frequency. If I had to guess I would think around 150 feet max for an Anson.
As a kid I used to stand at the end of the runway and watch the B-17s of the 306th BG landing after their mission and one forgot to wind in the antenna, the wicked 5 pound, or so, pear shaped, lead weight wrapped around the perimeter fence and it hauled out a long length of antenna cable, I should have measured it!
Later a ball turret door hit a fence post and I decided to stand off to one side!
I can look it up for you next Wednesday when I am next in the shop. We are rebuilding a Mk II and we do have the manual in the shop. Alternatively you could try Bill Reid in New Zealand, he probably has a manual handy.
The original information came from a chat with the current owner.
The plans were that the aircraft was to be made ferry-able by a team of engineers and flown to a US location for overhaul.
The US requirements for making an aircraft ferry-able are significantly less than the Canadian requirements, which would have required a fairly extensive overhaul. The aircraft has been stored indoors for the past 20+ years.
I am not located close to the Gananoque, Ontario, airfield, so I have no way of knowing if any work has yet been started.
Hi Sopwith.7f1,
I did not realize that they did not support individual requests for drawings. I guess their concern is liability, in the event someone tries to build something to fly!
I had been in correspondence with them prior to my visit and they were aware of my affiliation, so the question did not come up.
I did receive a fairly recent message telling me that they now had the Chadderton copies of the Anson drawings should we need further information.
Deryck
I have read through the comments on drawing sources and I did not see any reference to the Avro Heritage Centre at Woodford.
We have, for the past several years, been restoring a Canadian built Avro Anson Mk II and we have ordered and received several dozen copies of Avro Anson Mk I drawings from the Avro Heritage Centre at Woodford.
When in England some years back I visited with the guys at the Heritage Centre and personally sorted through the drawers of Anson drawings with them, looking for various details, as the drawings had not at that stage been fully catalogued.
While my interests were Avro Anson they indicated that they were also supporting the Vulcan.
I have no idea what other drawings they have in their archives, but they can probably be contacted through their web site, which used to be http://www.avroheritage.com
I was an Engine Mech stationed at Waterbeach from ’52 to ’56 and there was only one Hurricane, LF 363, there during that time and it was kept with the other station flight aircraft in the ASF hangar where I worked.
I remember the 306th BG holding the postwar open house. According to the book “First over Germany” it was held on August 1st 1945.
They had a band playing in one of the hangars, not Glenn Miller, and they sent trucks to the surrounding villages to pick the folks up. They had flown several other aircraft in for the event. I remember that some nut case opened a parachute in the B-26 Marauder. The various aircraft were opened up for the public to walk through.
The 306th had a collection of aircraft, P-51s, P-47s, UC-78s (Cessna Crane) and an Oxford, sometimes they had an L-4 on strength. I remember a pilot taking up a P-47 and performing some aerobatics to celebrate his completion of his Missions, prior to his return to the US, unfortunately he hit the ground between the parked B-17’s and killed himself. Unfortunately the aircraft, other than the B-17’s, were parked too far away to be able to read their markings.
This was not the only case of them opening the base up, they held dances in the hangars and they sent trucks to the villages to pick up the girls but they did not object to the guys getting on board also.
The Americans were very good to the kids at Xmas they had parties at most of the surrounding bases and many times we were invited in to watch baseball games. They usually had a 45/55gal barrel filled with ice and bottles of Coke!
Tempest 414, Thanks, they could be a big help if we can get some info/copies from them.
VampireDave,
I am not aware of any Swiss FB-6 restorations/conversions to represent a RCAF 400 squadron F-3. Could this be at the Canadian Warplane Heritage in Hamilton?
No idea what the Comox F-3 will be displayed as. I am sure that it will depend upon the wishes of the donor or the source of the funding and the Board of Directors of the Museum.
I am pretty sure that the opinions of the restoration team will carry very little weight!
Hi Vamp Dave, You are probably correct with the serials, the details have not yet reached the workshop. I am sure CFB Comox was mentioned as the source.
Bruce, my first thought was to ferry it, but I was shot down immediately.
It would be a lot of work to get it airworthy and I am not sure if there ever has been a single seat Vampire certified in Canada. The one owned by Al Rubin, that landed short at Rochester, was licenced in the US.
Right now the plan is to dismantle as little as possible and ship it back.
When? I have no idea! We (in the shop) only heard about it in the past few days.
VampireDave, Sorry, we do not yet have the serial number.
We were initially told it was a Mk 2, however all the RCAF aircraft were Mk 3s, so I have assumed that it is a Mk 3.
This is the second Vamp we have been offered, the other one was the ex-John Travolta Vamp, that landed short of the runway at, I think, Batavia, NY, that one seems to have fallen through. Interesting in that it was alleged to be the oldest jet flying!
We often go through these ‘how can we recover this aircraft’ scenarios. Not all come to fruition!
Thank you everyone, it has been some 60 years since I have been involved with the Vamp and my memory is obviously not what it was then.
I appreciate all the info and it obviously will need a larger team to do the job than we had first anticipated. The gang has been involved in several recoveries, including the Halifax, NA 337, but a little advance info on tricks and tips surely helps.
This recovery is not imminent so we have time to get organised.
Mike E, I will be in touch by PM.
Thanks again.
Thanks Bruce, Do not bother to measure the parts as it sounds like a major recovery crew would be required to dismantle it.
Pity, it was flown in to it’s current location. My first thought was to fly it out, but they say it has sat idle for too long for it to be made ready for a ferry flight.
Thanks for your input.