We, at Trenton, looked at using the Hasting undercarriage castings with the Dowty folks (They had, by then, acquired Messier) and the legs are much too short.
Remember that the Halifax is a mid-wing aircraft while the Hastings is a low- wing.
Pageno1,
Re your sketch: That is fine except I believe that the Hastings has its outboard engines mounted on the Intermediate wing.
Pageno1.
It looks like it could be a typo as, although the span is indicated to be longer, the wing area does not change.
OK, here is the dimensions of Halifax NA 337.
Now remember the wings are some 10 feet off the ground so there could be some margin of error as I measured it with a 35ft steel tape, since I did not want to haul out scaffolding!
The Intermediate Wing is about 8 feet 6 ins and the outer wing, with the engine on it, is about 30 feet 6 ins.
Although the measurements are rough they should suffice for the debate.
Oh dear, I forgot to measure the engine spacing! Maybe next week! (At a guess I would say that the spacing is about 13 feet.)
The Hastings is a low wing aeroplane and the maximum curvature of the Hastings fuselage is above the centreline of the inboard propellers. Thus the engine spacing may not have had be changed in order too allow them to have a larger diameter fuselage on the existing Halifax/Hastings centre section.
If you wish I will measure the Intermediate wings and the outer mainplanes on NA337. I am usually there before the building is open to the public.
However the difference according to Pagen01 is only 0.2 of a meter, what’s that – 6″ or 7″. Hardly noticable!
Blue 2, that should work just fine!
OK, Just for the record – I measured the mainwheel track of NA 337 today and it is 24ft 8ins. Now if someone will measure the track of the Hastings we will settle that item.
Without checking I would say that it is a FW 189.
Looks like a couple of Avro Tutors and a Miles Magister.
Cees, you should really try to develop a military contact. A lot of transport aircraft cross the Atlantic with ‘space available’, as well as the Canucks we had the Norwegian Air Force and the Royal Air Force bring Halifax bits in on their Hercs.
It was usually done at squadron level.
Peter, Re the Lanc, you are no doubt correct, I did not dig back over 40 years of photos to check the number, it was a WAG.
Hi Cees, No, not back yet, I think another month might see the snow melted!
I am surprised that Vince gave you a hard time with the Heritage crap. As I understand it he recently acquired the 8 or 9 surplus Bolys from CWH. They will just quietly rot away in his field. There are not a lot of customers for them. I still think we (NAFM) should grab at least a couple while they are available.
When are you visiting this year? I see that CWH has an airshow planned for June 18/19, 2011.
The period when Bob Stewart had his museum at the Oshawa airport would have been in the ’60’s, when I was learning to fly. The Oshawa Flying club had some instructors who had been based there during the war years.
In ’60’s in the hangars was a B-17 undergoing maintenance for Kenting.
A Lanc owned by the air cadets used to run it’s engines every Sunday. Kermit Weeks now has that airframe, or most of it.
A privately owned Mustang was active along with some Harvards.
The Hudson that was eventually mounted on a plinth at Gander was in the hangar having some Harvard engines installed to allow it to be ferried to Gander.
During the time I hung around the Oshawa airport I never saw any activity that might have been recognizable as part of a restoration of the Boly. Bob’s museum has gone now, or at least I have not been able to find anyone that has seen it lately. With the A/P mods it is now in a part that the public does not get to very often.
I spent some 13 years at the Canadian Warplane Heritage at Hamilton working on the Yale restoration and latterly on the Anson as crew chief. In 1995 I retired and moved to the Trenton area and I have been working in their restoration shop on the Halifax and the Anson. I think I would have heard if anyone in the area, other than CWH, was restoring a Boly.
So, Sorry ‘brewerjerry’ I cannot help you on this one.
A sign in the background seems to indicate the Oshawa Flying Club.
Years ago there used to be a museum operated by Bob Stewart in one of the old buildings at the airport, by the old hangars. There has been considerable work done at the airport, new terminal etc and I have not been back to the old side for some years.
Vince Connor at Goodwood Ontario has a few Bolys lying around. I have tried, without success, to get the National Air Force Museum of Canada to acquire enough Boly pieces while they are available even if only for use as patterns!
With a 1,000 B-17s, each with 10, 50 cal machine guns potentially firing, bullets fired must eventually reach the ground.
Even in the Midlands of England one of my Primary school teachers had a 50 cal bullet go through his car! That was due to an accidental firing when loading the guns on the ground prior to taxiing out for their mission.