I don’t give a penny for the argument that since the cruiser was heading West, she should be left alone. Given the mobility of a ship, she could be going East at 30 knots 5 minutes later…. 🙁
I always thought Belgrano had Exocet’s of her own, so it was quite interesting to hear otherwise. Still, with those 6 inch and the armour she could possibly made short work of the British fleet down there.
Anybody know the armour piercing qualities of an Exocet?
I guess the Belgrano was designed to withstand at least 5 inch, possibly 6 inch shells, but don’t have a clue as to compare a shell with a missile 🙂
I doubt they were pushing the limits during that exercise in India. None of the sides would like to reveal all their capabilities.
Also I would be very surprised if the exercise would not be used as a sales pitch to get F/A-22.
In one of the latest issues of Air Forces Monthly there was an article on the Rafale. They stated that the Rafale had an inbuilt device to simulate launching Mica missiles so they didn’t have to call “fox two” to call the shot and thereby give any snoopers any idea of it’s range etc. I’m pointing this out to illustrate the need to protect industrial secrets against any competition, not just from “enemies”.
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I think there might be too much emphasis on BWR combat here. The number of aircraft suggested here could probably swamp the air controllers and you might be left with one, maybe two salvos of radar missiles before the formations merged. Then you would have one hell of a furball, where manuverability and the ability to keep looking out of the cockpit would have made a big difference. I think the F-16’s HUD, manuverability, out of cockpit visibility and all aspect Sidewinders would have made it a Mig killer without equal. By the mid-eighties there was a lot of them in Europe too.
Also the SU-17 and MIG 27 is strike aircraft and than more likely to avoid tangling with fighters because of their manuverability and because it wasn’t their job to do that.
The Soviets could probably have plastered the airports in Germany, but many of their tactical birds like MIG-21, MIG-23? and MIG-29 has real short legs so I’m not sure if they would have blasted the airbases to oblivion when they needed the bases themselves!
Anyway, Great thread! I’m far more into the use of combat aircrafts, than the nuts and bolts that actually do the job 😀
Yeah Brown is one of my favorite authors. The B-1 modifications don’t seem too far fetched because it only changes the avionics, defensive systems, detection systems, and weapons, but the B-52 modifications do seem farfetched. No verticle stabilizer, new wings and new nose, that is some major modificaiton. Then to make it stealthy, the way the engine pods are mounted would have to be completly different, so that is a big problem.
You are probably quite right about the B-52. I do like the concept of “flying battleship” with B-1’s loaded up with amraams, harms, jdams etc. Google got a good point in doubting that a single bomber could do what it did in “Flight of the Old Dog”, but it makes a good story 🙂
Imagine taking a B-1, give it an off the shelf radar like F/A-18’s etc (or maybe it is possible to take any existing radar and increase dimensions to increase power, since there is a lot of space in the B-1 nose!). Some air to ground radar to get the picture on the ground, FLIR, cameras etc. Combine this stuff with a dozen amraams, half a dozen harm’s, loads of guided stand off weapons like jdam, Have Nap, harpoons, slams etc. Best electronic equipment available today and what have you got?
A platform that can handle a moderate air threat, sam suppression, serious air to ground and anti shipping. ECM like an EA-6B, battlefield recon like the P-3 did in Afghanistan and Iraq. And being a platform with looong legs and pretty survivable too!
I wouldn’t send it alone against a first line opponent, but it would be perfect for the kind of wars we’ve seen recently. And it shouldn’t take long to get it operational either. Something along this lines could be much better value than spending 30 years to build a cosmic super bomber…
Okay, a lot of loose threads in this project, but what do you guys think?
EB 52 anyone?
Anyone read the books by Dale Brown? I don’t have much of a clue about the technical sides of aircrafts, but the ideas about heavily modified B-52’s and B-1’s didn’t sound totally impossible.
Any comments?
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