On a personal note, it is sad to see that B of B pilot Harry Poulton’s medals and memorobilia for sale @ £22,500!
I did some of my ambulance training with his Grand daughter & worked with both her & Dad, Tony( who sadly died a couple of years ago).
Neither of them knew which family member got everything – I’d like to let her know-she has a right to, but I also have no desire to upset her, by telling her.:apologetic:
The story of the the Black Prince (or whichever tank is buried at the prison,)involved the Multi millionaire owner of a very large MV Collection who I worked for at the time. I know he was not one to delve into pure rumour collection-wise.
The Wartime Challenger as I understand was based on ??the Cromwell/Centaur hull Mated with the box turret of the Bishop??
This was certainly what this tank looked like from Photos and how it was put across in the magazine.
Ive heard of these tanks before, I stand to be corrected, but I recall a magazine article about a WW2 Challenger- not to be confused with the British Army’s current MBT, which was semi-buried & recovered a few years ago not far from that area.
Adding to that, photo’s of a Buried tank- showing the turret cupola ring, which was similar to the Churchill’s- in Sherwood forest, Notts, published in a 1980’s MVT magazine. Stories persist of a WW2 tank, rumoured to be a Black Prince, buried in the grounds of Ranby Prison, led to serious enquieries for a recovery, which were refused a permit by the Home Office.
Thank you both for what info you have. I have some info of its value, but nothing of its operational use.
Incidentally, it is one used by S/L Podger in 1968, it came complete with a Blue/Grey flight Jerkin when bought in 1985-ish. However on getting it home I found out my Mother used to work at a Gainsborough hospital with a fellow Nurse, surname Podger, whose Husband was an RAF Pilot based in Lincs, circa 1968.
Regards Rad.
Roobarb,
I should imagine one or two Movers share your sentiments with the whole Tristar fleet. Loading one outside at Mount Pleasant in “minus lord knows what degree of temp & horizontal snow blown in by an Antartic gale was never a pleasant experience. In fact the aircraft’s only saving grace was the blast from the APU, where you often found a gaggle us Movers keeping warm when it was freezing:eek:.
Before you ask, it was never proven that we did it to avoid work:sleeping:(:eagerness:.)
I believe that the bunker itself is at Watnall, Notts – a brief mention about the programme can be found in this link http://www.nottinghampost.com/Secret-bunker-given-stunning-TV-makeover/story-20609750-detail/story.html
Watnall was the HQ site that covered Duxford during the Batttle of Britain- Leigh-Mallory’s hideout, so its history is very important. Nice to see part of it being bought back to life. I’d love to go down into the underground parts, alas it is full of water.
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Snort, 616 Sqn never used the QY code:;)
I just wanted to share an eyeopening moment I had last week at a Rock concert……there were apparentley 45,000 people there in the stadium…..as I was perusing the crowd from above a thought crossed my mind that I was seeing 45,000 people in one place that looked like a sea of human beings, and the losses in BOMBER COMMAND were a good chunk more than that!!!. seeing so many people in one place hit home hard just how many people 55,000 actually was, its easy to roll the figures of the tongue or read it from a book, but to see a block of 45,000 people let alone 55,000 people all stood in one place really brought home just how many sacrifices were made, wether it was being shot over dresden an a blazing lancaster, or in a humble (but still every bit as important) accident whilst training.
I know you chaps on here will appreciate fully just how many 55,000 losses was but to the younger generation like my 16 yr old it was a great visual representation of the WW2 losses, and thats just in BOMBER COMMAND……..
A very sobering site to see, I often compare the BC losses to the number of empty seats in some football stadiums- that brings it home.
But to me the most sobering thought………..the casualty figures I often see quoted for the Second world war are around 60 million- thats roughly the UK population.
If you can imagine, every UK street, road & building being empty then you’re pretty close.
If you can do that, then you can understand why we cannot ever afford to forget those who gave.
What a fantastic sight to see!!
A feast for the eyes!!!! Thank you for sharing Peter.
A T.7 with the cockpit section removed is basically a Mk.4 airframe when it comes to the important bits. Where to find a Mk.4 cockpit though? That is the question.
It is my understanding that the T.7 cockpit was basically a stretched F.4, so in theory at least,you could back- engineer one to F.4 standard.
I may be wrong on this, but you could, in theory as least, use a T.7 airframe, the Cosford prototype for reproducing engineers drawings for cowlings & canopy, and a modified set of NF Meteor outer wings reproduce a MkI or Mk III.
Twin Otter, thanks for the heads up on this one- I often think that politicians neglect history deliberately IMO – which is a shame as we & esspecially they, could all learn a thing or two from past mistakes.
I’m sure there is an old saying that you should keep one eye on the future, but the other on the past.
regards Rad
In the 1980’s I was stood at a burger van next to the former RAF Hemswell. The van owner told me about an old military ambulance in one of the sheds. On investigating, I found a near complete Austin K2 ambulance, minus front wheels. I contacted the site owners, agreed a purchase, but before I had chance to collect, someone had stripped it down to its chassis. Needless to say I was gutted!!!!!!:mad::mad:i
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If anyone is interested, the preseved axis aircraft website has a photo of the CASA/ Heinkel fuselage.
Which cockpit would that be?
To my knowledge, it was a film mock up.
I beileve that the rear fuselage,tailplanes& some wing sections went to Colin Waterworth for his He111 project but this has since moved on.
Hi, it was Colin that owned the parts mentioned in my thread, they were displayed at Firbeck with SYAM for a time prior to him selling them on.
The cockpit was restored by the museum & displayed at the Waddinton air show.
I understand the other cockpit he had is the one at East Kirkby.