‘Nooky Booky’ is grounded and up for sale.
She has been sold – according to the LFAC – check this;
http://lfac.info.free.fr/news.php
Scroll down to Feb 24th. She now resides at La Ferté-Alais;
It’s in French, but I’m sure you’re all fluent…:rolleyes:
I read somewhere that during the restoration of a Luftwaffe machine that had been built by forced labour in France, a written message was found on a piece of structure..
“Ma coeur est en chomage”
translates as ‘My heart’s not in this’
A small protest compared with some, but direct action was not always possible.
Now you’re all just getting silly! I ask a perfectly straightforward question and all we get is a load of bovine jokes….
….so don’t reply unless you have any real moos…..
…..I thought this forum represented the cream of Historic aviation….
…..I’ve had enough buttering up….
…and now I’m on the horns of a dilemma…
….this is all just fodder…..
….dammit! Now I’m at it!
😀
Definitely – must use our inside contacts!
(Maybe it’s a new delivery of polish!!!)
Aha! Well done David! I couldn’t remember where I had read about the escape from Denmark; now I know where it is, sitting on my bookshelf!
If any of you don’t have this book, it’s a vital addition to any collection. Get a copy!
It’s quite true – from memory, the aircraft was hangared in a shed and the Germans did not know it was there. Two enterprising young Danes got the aircraft working, literally under the noses of the occupying forces, and flew it to the UK.
One detail I remember is that they had to replace the wing attachment bolts, they could not get the real ones, naturally, so they made their own.
The Horsa replicas were lifesize, built much the same as real ‘uns. I’ve got a slide somewhere that I took of their remains at Teuge in ’78.
We seem to accept that the VW main dealer will charge £80 plus an hour to change the oil in our Polo but think that rebuilding the very finest of vintage aircraft should command but a fraction of that hourly rate.
So true, Mark12. In my line of work I have to reconcile labour invoices for work on BAe146’s. We are now (as of 2004) being charged £33 per hour. It’s the industry average, and the work involved in fixing our aircraft is very detailed and requires a high level of skill. I don’t know what HFL charge for their labour to an outside party, but it can’t be much adrift of that.
Of course, it doesn’t cost the engineering outfit that much to employ one man for one hour, and that’s where the sums would add up when HFL are building an aircraft to sell on. But if you were to hand a pile of bits over to HFL and say ‘rebuild that!’ then at thirty three quid per hour you would very soon exceed £1 mil. once all the bits were included. Perhaps they work on an agreed total project price in situations like that.
Like Mark V says, provenance is everything, much like any antique.
It was on today’s lunchtime news too; ‘Look East’ had James Blatch in HFL’s hangar, with RN201 and TD248, the other one was PV202 judging by the Irish markings; but here’s the tasty bit – James then walked over to a pile of corroded bits which was the next project; he said it had been displayed outside and it was wearing Burmese triangles; very nice!
Definitely possible, given that the first few expeditions (and a good proportion of the total expenditure) only established where they actually were, and now that is known, it will cost substantially less to extract further P-38’s from the ice. I assume that Epps and co. do not have exclusive rights on the site.
The Forts are completely gone, anything that could be fetched up would just be small reference pieces – although having said that, a mass exhumation of skin panels would generate quite a bit of cash from collectors – I’m sure that there would be thousands of takers at, say, $250 per hand-sized section. Then there’s instruments, hand wheels, all kinds of other ephemera.
Good luck to ’em, I say!
Ahh, that takes me back…..with a bunch of mates I was at the PFA rally in ’76 or ’77, when you bought a day’s membership of the PFA in order to wander round the parked aircraft.
It was getting to leaving time, and as we walked by the little Spit, its’ owner/pilot (must have been Mr. Isaacs, I suppose) asked us if we would hold the tail for him whilst he hand-started it and got in (no brakes of course)
Delighted to help we were, it must have been an amusing sight for anyone watching as four strapping youths tried to find enough hand area on that tiny tail to hang on to – it only comes up to your knees!
Thanks for the memory, Daz!
Thanks for the replies, guys – I had considered posting on the ‘other’ forum but it didn’t quite fit ‘Modern Military’ as most of you youngsters weren’t even born then…..:D
He’s looking for the ship…..:rolleyes:
Wonderful news, Frank – I’m sure it will be a great success. And I would guess that your command of the English language will be a lot better than a few of the Englishmen that I know…:p
Always wondered what ‘Stoffer & Blik’ meant!
Dad was in the RAF (1939-1978), so born into aviation. Tried the RAF selection process but they couldn’t see my potential :rolleyes: so went into ‘Civil’ aviation instead, and still there 28 years on.
Historic Aviation specifically, well that’s thanks to Duxford Aviation Society – a mutual friend was volunteer working down there in ’76, and invited me (Who had just started at Marshall’s) to come along.
Ended up working on B-17 ‘la Duxford Belle’ until the project foundered due to ownership problems in ’77. Of course those problems were later sorted and she is now displayed there; I had a good bout of nostalgia on Remembrance Sunday having a wander round the bits I helped to put back together.