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  • in reply to: Kestrel XS 691 (XV6A 64-18265) status? #903055
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    The German Air Force appeared greatly interested in V/STOL commissioning several Dornier Do.31 V/STOL Transports and the VAK-191 V/STOL Fighter.

    Roger Ssmith.

    I know that the Germans built only two Dornier 31 VSTOL transport aircraft and then dropped the project, but was unaware of the VAK-191. The Do.31 employed two Pegasus engines for its forward thrust and eight Rolls-Royce RB162 engines for its vertical lift. I believe one of the Dorniers still exists in a German museum.

    in reply to: Kestrel XS 691 (XV6A 64-18265) status? #906630
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    Because they were largely US funded.
    That’s why they have USAF serials….64-18265.

    I recently saw 64-18264 at Pima…

    There was German money in there too and the aircraft were supposed to be divided up equally between the three nations (USA, UK and Germany) at the end of the trials. But, by the time the evaluation started, the Germans had lost interest and only sent a token group of six personnel to participate. At the end of the trials, they were uninterested in the airframes, but were definitely interested in the Pegasus engine, so they did a trade with the Americans to swop airframes for engines. By this time, we were down to 8 Kestrels, having lost XS696 early on. The UK, for whatever reason, took the hit on the lost aircraft, so only took two, leaving the USA with its three plus the German share, totaling six in all.
    My ambition is to get over to Pima one of these days and have a photograph taken with XS 690. It has been mostly restored, except for the nose cone, which got lost somewhere, so the museum substituted a Harrier nose cone. It doesn’t look the same as the original, but better than nothing.

    in reply to: Kestrel XS 691 (XV6A 64-18265) status? #909279
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    AFAIK XS691/64-18265 was broken up at Edwards in 1970.
    Andy Marden

    Andy, thank you for the information. What a shame to have done that to an historic aircraft, but at least five of them survive in museums, in restored condition.

    in reply to: Please Help Me I.D. My P.1127 Kestrel #887708
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    Jack Ruskin,
    I followed the recommendation provided in your PM and left a voice message. That was nearly 2 weeks ago, but there has been no response. Could I perhaps trouble you for the email address?
    Thanks, Brian
    [QUOTE=Jack Ruskin;2278388]Brian,

    Bob hasn’t logged in here since 2009 but i do have some contact details. PM sent, check your in

    in reply to: Please Help Me I.D. My P.1127 Kestrel #896592
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    to whoever may be interested,I have 100% I.D.on my Kestrel,I removed a couple of fuselage access panels,and it was marked XS694 ,and the wing assy.,has XS689,anyone have any leads on manuals,parts,pics,etc.?
    Thanks,Bob

    Hi Bob, I am a former member (ex-RAF) of the Tripartite Kestrel Evaluation Squadron. Do you still have XS694? If so, I have some pictures of it at that time and am in contact with one of the ground crew members responsible for handling that particular aircraft. He would be able to give you some background historical information that you might like to have. Also, I am in the process of writing memoirs of my time on the squadron and would like to include a list of the present circumstances of all nine aircraft. I have information on all except two, one of them being XS694. Regards, Brian

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