Billy BishopOh wow these instructions are even better:
http://www.bored****less.com/nuclear_bomb.html
Making and owning an H-bomb is the kind of challenge real Americans seek. Who wants to be a passive victim of nuclear war when, with a little effort, you can be an active participant? Bomb shelters are for losers. Who wants to huddle together underground eating canned Spam? Winners want to push the button themselves. Making your own H- bomb is a big step in nuclear assertiveness training — it’s called Taking Charge. We’re sure you’ll enjoy the risks and the heady thrill of playing nuclear chicken.
Billy BishopApparently VB code doesn’t allow really long url links. Go to google and search for “orao-3 rd-35”. Two links come up.
Billy BishopI just did some research, and actually there was a planned upgrade for the J-22, called the Orao-3. This upgrade would have happened in the late 90’s if the country hadn’t broken up.
Here is some info on it (if someone can translate?):
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cNXHzwPWflEJ:pavicevic.virtualave…
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:t8KmS-e02YoJ:pavicevic.virtualave…
The upgrade would have used the Russian Kopyo radar, which is a very small radar designed for aircrafts just like the J-22. With this radar the Orao-3 would have been able to use the R-73 and R-77 missiles.
The planned engine was the RD-35, which would have gave the plane a max speed of around Mach 1.3 or 1.4, and a much greater payload.
Billy BishopActually, maybe they would get the AMRAAM, look at this:
Wed May 7, 2003 02:00 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Bush authorized the U.S. government on Monday to provide military materials to Serbia and Montenegro in a “presidential determination” sent to the State Department.
“I hereby find that the furnishing of defense articles and services to Serbia and Montenegro will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace,” Bush said in the memorandum.
Under U.S. law, the president has ultimate authority over the export of defense articles and services and it is up to him to decide which nations are eligible for the assistance.
Secretary of State Colin Powell visited Belgrade on April 2 to stress the U.S. commitment to help Serbia and Montenegro fight organized crime and political extremism.
Powell also stressed the importance of Serbia cooperating with the U.N. tribunal over suspects linked with war crimes in the Balkan conflicts of the 1990s.
Source: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=2694133
Also, this:
Serbia and Montenegro Eligible for U.S. Defense Assistance, May 7, 2003
Source: http://www.usembassy.it/file2003_05/alia/A3050708.htm
Billy BishopForget about upgrading Oraos, there’s only about 30 of them left, not enough to bother upgrading.
Which begs the question, what happened to the other 70 or so Oraos (I think at least 100 were built)?
Billy BishopI think the people who suggested the MAKO don’t think it should replace the G-4, but rather the Mig-21/29. The MAKO is a supersonic BVR capable plane which can perform almost any role.
As for “how could Serbia maintain 4th gen fighters if they can’t even maintain their Mig-21/29’s”, well you should know that any 4th gen fighter should be cheaper/easier to maintain than a Mig-21 or 29. Early Soviet aircraft were not designed to be easy to maintain. All new 4th gen aircraft are.
Also I think most of you are way too pessimistic about Serbia’s economy. They went through 10 years of sanctions and war, so of course they’re poor, but you can’t compare them with other eastern European countries, because Serbia was not part of the warsaw pact and is just as highly developed and industrialized as most western countries. Before the breakup of Yugoslavia, their GDP per capita was higher than several EU countries (such as Greece, Portugal, and Spain). Look at Slovenia, they have already caught up to the poorer EU countries, so why shouldn’t Serbia do the same in another 5-10 years?
Billy BishopI disagree with keeping the J-22’s. The G-4, after upgraded, will be able to do everything the J-22 can do, so what is the point of keeping the J-22?
And you all say “you don’t need modern fighters” but I disagree. We all know a country’s influence depends on its military might and influence is one thing Serbia needs more of if it expects to keep Kosovo (or maybe even other parts of the country from ripping off). I totally agree with Garry, Nato never would’ve attacked if they expected heavy loss of aircraft and life (look how they’re not attacking Russia over Chechnya).
Billy BishopBy the way the Sniper upgrade is a relatively minor upgrade, it doesn’t increase the capabilities of the Mig-29A by too much. Serbia could probably do such an upgrade by itself. The SMT upgrade is far better, it brings the Mig-29A into an entirely new class, that of the F-16 Block 60 and Mirage 2000-9.
Billy BishopYeah I got some info about it:
This is a long-range remotely piloted vehicle intended for reconnaissance, EW and disruption missions.
VBL-1000 is a small, unmanned aircraft, almost entirely made of composite materials in order to minimize radar and thermal signature. The engine attenuation is maintained at low noise level. Owing to small size of the vehicle and use of non-reflective neutral paint visual cross-section is minimized.
The VBL-1000 is launched from ground by means of a booster rocket. It can land by means of a parachute or even by a landing gear at small flat surfaces. One of the VBL-1000 compartments is intended for installation of various sensors. For day and night reconnaissance missions it is equipped with an auto- stabilized low-light TV camera with automatic tracking and lenses and a vertical camera for aero-photo reconnaissance, or with an IC linear scanner and VCR for the thermal image recording.
Optionally, the VBL-1000 can also be outfitted with other stores such as active and passive radar amplifiers for distraction and other missions.
The VBL-1000 can be controlled remotely or automatically depending on a specific mission. The ground control station and the airborne avionics are configured to allow the VBL-1000 control from the ground and display of telemetric data.
Pre-programmed and support missions can be accomplished by use of GPS navigation.
Main tasks of the ground control station are guidance of VBL-1000, monitoring, digital map display and telemetry in real time.
VBL-1000 can operate along a pre-programmed flight trajectory of up to 500 routing points. The main parts:IR line scanner/aero-photo camera,TV camera with zoom lens, remotely controlled TV camera mount, rotational antenna, receiver-transmitter unit, computer, TV and thermal image processor, video recorder, fuel tank, parachute, ducted fan, GPS, throttle setting, radio altimeter, battery, flux valve, attitude gyro unit, linear accelerometer, rate gyro unit and rudder actuator.
Power plant:
one 18.6 kW (25 HP) NGL, WAE-342
Wing span 3.3 m
Length 3.25 m
Height 1.22 m
Maximum payload 30 kg
Cruising speed 137 km/h
Maximum range 1100 km
Maximum endurance 8 h
Maximum speed 186 km/h
Maximum flight altitude 3650 m
By the way here is detailed information about every product currently available from Serbian defence companies:
Billy BishopI think they should wait until the PAK-FA is ready (around 2010-2012) and then buy that. It will be a 5th gen fighter comparable to the F-22 and if you have that then no one will touch you. Also, Russia might agree to let you design some of the components locally, which is something that any western country would never agree to. Until 2010, the current airforce will have to do.
Second hand F-16’s are a bad idea, because of their “high mileage” and if you buy secondhand F-16’s you will just have to replace them in another 10 years anyways. And not to mention that any F-16 which is not amraam capable is even worse than a Mig-29A and not worth getting.
By the way, why is it that whenever we discuss the Balkans, it’s always about Serbia or Greece? I don’t recall this forum ever having a discussion about the airforces of Croatia or Albania or Slovenia, I’m really interested in those countries too.
Billy BishopNeither the F-15 ASAT nor the MiG-31D ever left the development stage, and they are certainly not ‘used for ASAT’.
According to my info Russia has two Mig-31D dedicated anti-satellite models (numbered 071 and 072), they entered service in 1986 and I have not read anything about them being withdrawn from service.
LOL have you looked at how much natural hypervelocity debri is already in ORBIT ?
You cannot compare that with debris released purposely designed to damage a satellite, due to the fact it is not large enough and does not move fast enough.
Billy BishopUSA has modified an F-15 and equipped it with a missile called the ASM-135 to destroy the satellite. The F-15 climbs to 80,000 feet and fires the missile at the satellite, and the missile homes in using an infrared seaker.
Russia uses the Mig-31D in the same way.
Ukraine does not have any Mig-31D’s, but before the Mig-31D was developed, the USSR already had asat capability using some kind of rockets which were launched from the ground, and since Ukraine is still very interested in space I assume they have some of these rockets.
Billy BishopThen there must be lots of acts of war against the US, because Russia and China both have satellites whose specific purpose is countermeasures against other satellites, and I’m sure the US has satellites which do the same. For example the Russians have satellites capable of dispersing high velocity particles and other satellites get destroyed when they collide into these particle clouds. Destroying all of the US’s satellites would pretty much nullify the US’s entire military might, due to the fact that they would not be able to see an attack coming. they would not be able to monitor what is going on anywhere in the world, and many of their weapons are dependent on the global positioning system. The problem is, the US has many satellites, so how do you destroy ALL the satellites in a very short amount of time? After you destroyed the first couple, that would be a big warning and they would probably do the same thing to your satellites. The secodn problem is, very few countries would even have the capability to destroy a satellite. The only countries I know for sure have this capability today are US, Russia, and Ukraine.
Billy BishopWait a sec, are we comparing ONLY anti-ship missiles which are launched by fighter jets?
Billy BishopThe Yakhont has superior specs compared to any other missile in this class. Of course real life is often a different story…
Maximum speed is Mach 2.5 and maximum range is 300 kms. Also, unlike other missiles, the Yakhont was designed specifically to counter enemy defefences such as the Aegis ship defence system.
More information about it:
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