No, the F-5’s actually had a long and successful career, however they were upgraded in the early 90’s (or late 80’s, I’m not sure) and right after they were upgraded it was decided that there was not enough money to keep both them and the Hornets flying, so the upgraded CF-5’s are now sitting in storage doing nothing. Several were sold to Botswana a few years ago. Greece was also supposed to buy 30 or so but the deal never went through.
Actually Canada just bought the licence for the F-5 and built them locally, with some modifications. CF-5’s are all slightly different than American-built F-5A/B’s. Then the upgrade 15 or so years ago made them even more different. I am unsure exactly what was upgraded, and how capable this upgrade made them.
What is the purpose of keeping something so outdated in service? It is completely useless as a bomber these days. Its max speed is only 560 mph, its range is only 1300 miles, and it can only carry 3000 kg of bombs.
Even the earliest version of the Mig-29 would make a better bomber than it. It can carry more bombs than the Beagle, and probably deliver them a lot more accurately too.
Poland had several projects during the 90’s but all the ambitious ones were cancelled, like the Kobra and the Scorpion.
Kobra:

The most promising Polish plane, which is still in full swing, is the EM-10 Bielik which is a light jet trainer but unfortunately the airforce has refused to buy any.
EM-10 Bielik:
No, I am pretty sure it is possible to make a data link with radio waves which cannot be jammed, using the method I described previously.
The biggest problem with my idea is finding where a stealth target is in the first place. But IF you can get the missile close enough to the target for camera to see the target, or the computer to construct an image from the targets IR rays if this is better, then it is toast.
The tv report said that the Arrow is intended to be displayed in the museum, but the footage also showed all kinds of things which I don’t think they would put in the plane if they didn’t intend it to fly. So I’m not sure.
Yes, almost all the blueprints were destroyed. But apparently the engineers who worked on the project in the late 50’s have remembered enough about it to create an exact replica. Also the report mentioned that when the project was cancelled, some engineers secretly kept documents/blueprints instead of destroying them, so I guess a little bit has survived.
Some of the engineers went on to work in American companies so no doubt some American planes built during the 60’s and 70’s benefitted from technology and experience from the Arrow.
The comm links would have to be radio waves. There are always radio waves all over the place, so the enemy is not going to notice that. Even if the enemy knows to look for radio waves, how is he going to distinguish the radio transmissions guiding the missile from radio transmissions for the local radio and tv stations?
As for SEAD, yes you are transmitting and radio waves can potentially be traced to their source of transmission. But this is easily overcome, for example by transmitting from a moving van, or better yet by transmitting on a rotating frequency (both the transmitter/receiver on the ground and the transmitter/receiver on the missile switch frequencies in a pre-determined order at pre-determined intervals, say every 5 seconds).
Secondly, the transmitter doesn’t necessarily have to be located near the guy on the ground, it can be kilometers away from him, and if the transmitter is destroyed, no big deal, he just presses a button to switch to another one. Radio transmitters/receivers are so cheap that you can distribute thousands of them across the ground. This will even allow the missile to still maintain contact if it gets out of range of the original transmitter. Kind of like cell phone roaming, if you move out of range of the nearest cell phone tower, you are automatically connected to the cell phone tower that is currently closest to you.
I suppose the enemy could try to jam ALL possible radio frequencies, but this requires him to get a radio jammer close enough to jam the frequencies and keep it there preventing it from being destroyed. Besides, it is possible to filter through jamming to still get a clear transmission. For example, the transmitter and receiver can both be programmed so that every legitimate sequence of transmissions will be preceded by a certain “key”, and everything else is most likely background noise or malicious jamming, and ignored. This is the theory used behind some computer network encryption. And doesn’t the army use some kind of secure unjammable radios? This is probably how they work.
MANPADs should be point- and-shoot weapons.
I agree, but I’m talking about high altitude sams, not manpads.
Considering the height the B-2s fly at you will need rather more than a MANPADS anyway.
I am not suggesting this system to be used at low altitude at all, for low flying aircraft you have manpads and AAA. I am proposing my idea for SA-2’s, SA-3’s, and SA-6’s. My idea probably wouldn’t work at all for low altitude missiles like the SA-7 because the missiles are so small they require a direct hit to bring the plane down which would be difficult for a human to achieve. But SA-2’s are so big that even if they explode 50 meters from a plane they will still bring it down.
If there is a cloud you can’t see through at any level… low or medium or high, if it is between you and the target then it is a problem.
I don’t think you’ve understood me correctly… The camera would be built into the nose of the missile, and would transmit the image from the camera on to a monitor somewhere on the ground. The person looking at the monitor would have a first person view of what the missile sees, and would guide the missile using a joystick which would transmit instructions back to the missile telling it which way to maneuver. So no line of sight is necessary between the person guiding the missile and the missile itself, in fact the only necessity is that radio waves be able to travel from the missile to the controller on the ground and vice versa.
I agree that a person would not be able to hit a small maneuverable target at high closing speeds most of the time. But a person should still be able to hit or at least get very close to slower less maneuverable targets like B-2’s, which are the most important targets anyways.
Even if the person can bring down a target only a quarter of the time, that is still better than any air defence system has ever managed before (ie Vietnam, and not to even mention Iraq and Kosovo).
Clouds are only a problem at low altititude, so they don’t even factor into this equation.
Although TV guidance works only at night, correct me if I’m wrong but with today’s computers an image can be constructed using its IR rays and then displayed onto a screen in real time (this is how thermal viewers work, is it not?), this should allow the person to clearly see the target at night or through light fog.
Picture of Diefenbaking announcing that the project is cancelled because manned interceptors are obsolete and Canada will buy the Bomarc missile instead, picture of the headline in the newspapers, and picture of the Avro Arrow company where thousands of people lost their jobs on that day without any warning.
Pictures of Arrow prototypes.
Oh great, another thread turned into a thread about India.
Let’s keep discussion centered on the new Russia AESA please. I for one am very interested in this. Post more information if there is any. Who was it that claimed that Russia was incapable of building an AESA radar because they didn’t have the foundries to produce the T/R modules?
You mean the ending where a helicopter is hovering only a few metres above hundreds of men with lots of tanks and apcs, and the tanks are all firing at it yet the helicopter isn’t even scratched and manages to kill all the men and blow up the tanks and escape?
Actually the scene with the SA-13 downing the Super Hornet is very realistic and exactly how it would have happened in real life.
But you see, the Raptor is stealthy so the enemy would never even know it’s there until he detects an AMRAAM in terminal phase coming at him.
You can be as fast as you want, you still can’t beat the Raptor, unless you can detect stealth or unless you’re stealthy yourself.
The whole purpose of the advanced technology of the Raptor (eg stealth, LPI radar, supercruise, etc) is that it doesn’t need to be fast or have a good climb rate and all that. Even if its opponent can fly at Mach 5, the Raptor would still be able to dictate the terms of the engagement.
Avionics, not flight performance, is what distinguishes the latest generation planes from their predecessors.
While Syria was involved in Lebanon, i was looking for another country as number 5.
F-14’s flew strike missions over Bosnia. This was the only time F-14’s used LGB’s. Although they did not have laser designaters so Hornets had to fly with them to mark their targets for them.