The F124’s radar is said to be superior to the SPY-1F which is not the much more capable D version used by destroyers, it has been claimed the Sampson is superior to the D version (although this is difficult to prove as specs for both are scarce) so yes the Sampson is far superior to the F124’s radar.
So you claim something wich is better then my claim and use it as your proof that t45 is far superior to f124? :rolleyes:
In order to further his already flawed argument, he points to things that he cannot prove will in the future be fitted to the F124 (GMLRS) and if they are will only equal what the T45 will be fitted with (155mm gun, UAV’S).
Read your posts above, you added Harpoons and 24 VLS yourself and here you talk like F124’s systems are only wet dreams of future! LOL!
However…
If you want to compare current systems please…
In terms of close in air defence and anti shiping missiles the F124 Frigate is superior, because Sea Ram is much more capable than Phalanx, and the Type 45 has no anti shipping capability. In terms of ASW the type 45 probably has a better sonar suite, but the German ship does have 2 helo’s vs Type 45′ 1. The Type 45 has a bigger main gun, but the German ship has a faster firing, but much smaller gun. The main comparison is the air defence weapons, the German ship has the much more capable Mk.41 VLS, whilst the Type 45 has the very limited Syler VLS. Currently, the Type 45 has the better medium range missile Aster 30, but the Germans are getting thr latest SM2 when it’s released which will be superior to the Aster 30, at least in terms of range, and the SM3 can be used which will give the German ship missile defence capability, which the Type 45 doesnt have. The Type 45’s Aster 15 missile is probably superior to the ESSM, but the German ship can hold 4 ESSM in each cells, compared to the 1 Aster 15 in each cell on Type 45, so can hold twice the number of missiles in half the number of cells! = more long range AAM. The Type 45 has 48 cells from the start and is planned to get 16 more, so will have 64 compared to the German ships 32 cells, but the German ship can use the space much more effectively, and can carry a range of weapons such as Harpoon, or Tomahawk to give it deep strike capability.
The Type 45 will be a better escort for the carrier group, because it larger and has more cells, whereas the German ship has much more flexibility in what it can do. Although the Type 45 doesnt have super long ranged AAM, its carrier has F35 so its less of a problem, and Type 45 may be upgraded with Mk.41’s, Sea Ram’s ect in the future.
(the Gripen is already a small Aircraft)
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