By the way, Peter Deinekin, one of the participants in the “bombing mafia”. He made a decision to remove all single-engine aircraft (MiG-23, MiG-27 and Su-17) from the arsenal.
As a result, remained in the projects:
– the attack aircraft Su-137
– light fighter MiG 4.12
– combat trainer C-54, C-55 and C-56
My point is that Mig-29 has been judged by many as intrinsecally inferior to Su-27, no matter wich upgrade could be squeezed in.
MiG-29 – in its final form, this is the “average fighter”. Same as F/A-18A, Eurofighter or Rafale. I agree that instead of a twin-engine fighter, it was necessary to do with one AL-31F engine.
It’s strange that Pogosyan thinks AL-31F is not reliable enough for a single-engine aircraft :stupid:
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A clean sheet project, single engined (NK-32 sibiling, why not?)
A “Su-27” fighter with one engine? Who needs it?
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F-35A – 2800 km, external tanks are not provided
Rafale – 2000 km (without external tanks), 2440 km (1 tank), 2600 km (2 tanks), 3300 km (3 tanks), 3704 km (4 tanks + 8 MICA), 4000 km (5 tanks)
1278 km – horizontal takeoff and landing CTOL
1019 km – short takeoff and vertical landing STOVL
1352 km – CV
F-35A
1239 km (669 nm) CTOL, Conventional Takeoff and Landing, normal takeoff and landing
13290 kg (empty) + 8278 kg (fuel) + 100 kg (pilot) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 22909 kg
Since all the load on the internal suspension, the flight range is affected only by weight changes.
Average weight without bombs
13290 kg (empty) + 4139 kg (fuel) + 100 kg (pilot) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 18770 kg
Average weight with dropping bombs
13290 kg (empty) + 4139 kg (fuel) + 100 kg (pilot) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 459 kg (1 GBU-32) = 18311 kg
The range of the flight is 1239 km * 2 + 5% ANZ = 2478 km + 124 km = 2602 km
F-35A, the maximum flight range
13290 kg (empty) + 8278 kg (fuel) + 100 kg (pilot) = 21668 kg
The average weight of 17529 kg
(18311 kg: 17529 kg) * 2602 km = 2718 km
(18770 kg: 17529 kg) * 2602 km = 2786 km
F-35B
935.36 km (505 nm) STOVL, Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing, short takeoff and vertical landing
14515 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 6124 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 21980 kg
Average weight without bombs
14515 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 3062 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 18918 kg
Average weight with dropping bombs
14515 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 3062 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 459 kg (1 GBU-32) = 18459 kg
The flight range is 935.36 km * 2 + 5% ANZ = 1870.72 km + 93.536 km = 1964.3 km
F-35B, flight range without load
14515 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 6124 kg (fuel) = 20739 kg
The average weight of 17677 kg
(18918 kg: 17677 kg) * 935.36 km = 1001 km
(18459 kg: 17677 kg) * 935.36 km = 977 km
F-35C
1185 km (640 nm) CV
15785 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 8959 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 26085 kg
Average weight without bombs
15785 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4479.5 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 21605.5 kg
Average weight with dropping bombs
15785 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4479.5 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 459 kg (1 GBU-32) = 21146.5 kg
The range is 1185 km * 2 + 5% ANZ = 2370 km + 118.5 km = 2488.5 km
F-35C, flight range without load
15785 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 8959 kg (fuel) = 24,844 kg
The average weight of 20364.5 kg
(21605.5 kg: 20364.5 kg) * 2488.5 km = 2640 km
(21146.5 kg: 20364.5 kg) * 2488.5 km = 2584 km
Not all present know English. If translate the text of the video, i also does not understand anything 😉
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From Paralay’s impeccable calculations. They’re more accurate than official test data.
The range of 3760 km is obtained if we believe the test results
167-meter short takeoff, 2 JDAM and 2 AIM-120 inside, fuel for flight at 833 km (450 nm)
1239 km (669 nm) CTOL, Conventional Takeoff and Landing
935 km (505 nm) STOV, Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing
GBU-32 (v) 1 / B: 1.013 lb 1.013 pounds (459 kg)
2 AiM-120C (161.5 kg)
F-35B
14515 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 6124 kg (fuel) + 323 kg (2 AiM-120C 161.5 kg) + 918 kg (2 GBU-32) = 21980 kg
The range of the flight is 1239 km * 2 + 5% ANZ = 2478 km + 124 km = 2602 km
Range without load
14515 kg (empty) + 100 kg (pilot) + 6124 kg (fuel) = 20739 kg
21980 kg: 20739 kg = 1.05984 * 2602 km = 2758 km
6124 kg: 2758 km = 2.22 kg / km
The average weight of 17677 kg
F-35A, Limiting range
13290 kg (empty) + 8278 kg (fuel) + 100 kg (pilot) = 21668 kg
The average weight of 17529 kg
8278 kg (fuel F-35A): 6124 kg (fuel F-35B) * 2758 km (range F-35B) = 3728 km
The flight range is 3760 km
I’m not saying that the calculations are ideal. My task is to find the truth. If I was wrong, then so be it.
Yes, I did it.
I worked with MiG-31
I do not believe, I check. Range T-50 is calculated by me :p
The fact is that the F-35 can have such a range, provided
fineness – 12 !!!!! F-22 anf T-50 – 12, Su-27 – 11.6
specific fuel consumption – 0.54 kg / kgs * h !!!!
But modern engines have higher fuel consumption:
F-22 – 0.61 kg / kgs * h, Su-27 – 0.67 kg / kgs * h, F-18A – 0.83 kg / kgs * h
Can you prove this by calculations?
Gentlemen, do we all know how to count? Let’s not believe in a word, but check what they tell us. Ok?
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