Related to the nose cone discussion: Has anyone cared about what is the design Mach of thr Space Shuttle with its fatty rounded nose: Mach 24 (from my MEM).

The nose of the Shuttle is optimized for deceleration in plazma 😉

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considering the ratio “nose cone/top speed”, what would be the top speed of the Mirage F1?

A good example. I have no explanation. Agree, this is an isolated incident. Most modern aircraft are subject to the law.

Wow, great. Nose angles for max speed. In which case the Su-34 must go 2700 km/h. :eagerness:

And if so? 🙂

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Probably the Su-27SM

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Well, if with a little higher BPR, easily goes with a thrust of 17.5-20T. Then twin engine configuration may have a MTOW of 140-160T.

Normal combat load Russian bomber:
6 X 101 + multiposition launcher = 16600 kg.
4 RVV-SD + 4 UVKU-50U, 4 x 190 kg + 117 kg x 4 = 1228 kg.
2 RVV-MD 2 x 110 kg = 220 kg.
16600 kg + 1228 kg + 220 kg = 18048 kg
The relative weight of the normal payload bomber 8 – 10%
18048 kg : 0.1 or 0.08 = 180 480 or 225 600 kg

the ratio of thrust to weight ratio of 0.25.
thrust one motor 11280 – 14100 kg

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Not really to have 4 in it. In general, for a bomber like that scale, T/W= ~0.25-0.3. 4* 15 t=60t, then the MTOW will be more than 200T. As per some saying, the MTOW could be 100~150T, then 2 engines based on NK-32M core with more thrust by a bigger BPR. would do.

MTOW 240 t.
Twin-engine variants is interesting, but unlikely. 2 NK-32+ (2 * 15,000 kg) : 0.25 kg = 120000 kg

If you visit somewhere like russiadefence or paralay forums you can expect the same kind of attitude but pro-Russia instead. That’s just the nature of these forums.

Thank you :Р