Rafale
For comparison, the combat capabilities of the Su-35 and Rafale choose a configuration with a range equal to:
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 370 kg (2 Meteor) + 672 kg (6 MICA) + 4125 kg (3 EFT, 5295 kg of fuel) = 20 427 kg, the total weight of fuel 4700 kg + 5295 kg = 9995 kg.
The radius range of 1155 km, the range of 3300 km. Fuel consumption of 3 kg / km
RCS in this configuration.
RCS min. = 2.8 sq.m., on the pendants 3 PTB + 2 Meteor + 6 MICA = 11 points.
RCS = (2.8 m + 11 m) * 0.5 = 6.9 sq.m.
Su-35
combat load
4 RVV-MD, 4 x 106 kg = 424 kg. 4 P-72 x 49 kg = 196 kg.
6 RVV-SD, 6 x 190 kg = 1140 kg. AKU-170E 6 x 61 kg = 366 kg.
2 RVV-BD, 2 x 510 kg = 1020 kg. AKU-58AE 2 x 186 kg = 372 kg.
424 kg + 196 kg + 1140 kg + 366 kg + 1020 kg + 372 kg = 3518 kg
4 RVV-MD, 4 x 106 kg = 424 kg. 4 P-72 x 49 kg = 196 kg.
4 RVV-SD, 4 x 190 kg = 760 kg. AKU-170E 4 x 61 kg = 244 kg.
4 RVV-BD, 4 x 510 kg = 2040 kg. AKU-58AE 4 x 186 kg = 744 kg. distance of 200 km / 300 km, warhead. 60 kg.
424 kg + 196 kg + 760 kg + 244 kg + 2040 kg + 744 kg = 4408 kg
Take-off weight in this configuration
17,550 (blank) + 100 kg (pilot) + 11500 kg (fuel) + 4408 kg (load) = 33,558 kg
Flight distance in this configuration with a load of 3300 km.
RCS in this configuration.
RCS min. = 2.5 sq.m.
RCS = (2.5 m + 12 m) * 0.5 = 7.25 sq.m.
Rafale
Takeoff weight:
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) = 15260 kg
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 740 kg (4 Meteor) + 448 kg (4 MICA) = 16,448 kg. Radius of 700 km, the range of 2000 km. Fuel consumption 2.35 kg / km
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 740 kg (4 Meteor) + 448 kg (4 MICA) + 2,200 kg (EFT, 1765 kg of fuel) = 18 648 kg, the total weight of 4700 kg of fuel + 1765 kg = 6465 kg.
Radius of 840 km, range 2440 km. Fuel consumption 2.65 kg / km
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 740 kg (4 Meteor) + 448 kg (4 MICA) + 2750 kg (2 EFT, 2200 kg of fuel) = 19 198 kg, the total weight of fuel 4700 kg + 2200 kg = 6900 kg.
Radius of 910 km, range 2600 km. Fuel consumption 2.65 kg / km
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 740 kg (4 Meteor) + 448 kg (4 MICA) + 2540 kg (2030 kg CFT 2) = 18 988 kg, the total weight of 4700 kg of fuel + 2030 kg = 6730 kg.
Radius of 945 km, range 2700 km. Fuel consumption 2.5 kg / km
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 896 kg (8 MICA) + 2200 kg (2 EFT, 1765 kg of fuel) + 2750 kg (2 EFT, 2200 kg of fuel) = 21 106 kg, total weight of 4700 kg of fuel + 1765 kg + 2200 kg = 8665 kg.
The range of 1050 km, the range of 3000 km. Fuel consumption 2.89 kg / km
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 740 kg (4 Meteor) + 448 kg (4 MICA) + 4125 kg (3 EFT, 5295 kg of fuel) = 20 573 kg, the total weight of fuel 4700 kg + 5295 kg = 9995 kg.
The range of 1155 km, the range of 3300 km. Fuel consumption of 3 kg / km
Ferry configuration:
10,460 kg (equipment) + 100 kg (pilot) + 4700 kg (fuel) + 2750 kg (2 EFT, 2200 kg of fuel) + 4125 kg (3 EFT, 5295 kg of fuel) = 22,135 kg. fuel weight 4700 kg + 2200 kg + 5295 kg = 12,195 kg
Flight range of 4,000 km. Fuel consumption of 3 kg / km
What we know about the flight range Rafale fighter?
In the hands of the pilots with the same level of training
Rafale has no chance in a fight with the Su-35. If someone does not understand, I can show detail 😎
We compare heavy fighter 2008, with a light fighter in 1986, what do you expect?
Rafale has only one advantage in air combat, the pilots of the aircraft have killed people, first in Libya, now in Mali. The Su-35 pilots still did not kill anyone.
mathematics are the same, but the real question is, what values are you using to calculate anything in there? where they come from? etc…
Mathematics is the same for all, and for Russian and Europeans
near dogfight
weight second salvo – Negligible
sweptwing
aspect ratio
Wing loading
lengthening the fuselage
thrust-to-weight
thrust vector control
locator simultaneously monitors
locator simultaneously attacks
the number of points for weapons
RCS
overload g
acceleration
range
rate advantage over the Su-27
long-range air combat
high speed
cruising speed
range
range radar
locator simultaneously monitors
locator simultaneously attacks
the number of points for weapons
RCS
range
rate advantage over the Su-27
efficiency / cost
generation
success rate
The Su-35 is superior Rafale in close air combat 1.95: 1.29 = 51%, in the far dogfight 1.93: 1.27 = 52%
That is, the Su-35 before dying in battle destroy two Rafale
“Success rate.” Rafale would be more likely implemented as a project by 30%
You ignore it’s a detail: with CFTs the F 15 E still carry 11.5 t. of weapons. And it carry this load for 1000 Nmiles. Can you name something similiar?
Stop talking nonsense!
Weapon weight does not exceed 6000 kg, usually not more than 4800 kg.
Maximum range, unarmed – 3900 km. (15 613 kg of fuel)
Action radius 3,900 km * 0.35 = 1365 km. This range, of course, without weapons, in optimal conditions.
You’re absolutely right! 😎
This word can also mean: “a person who lives on the shore of the Baltic Sea.” In the modern Russian language – “Прибалт”
So why on earth do the Russians nowadays call Voronezh-B Балтимор/Baltimor? Is there any historical reason for this? Was it coined recently, for fun? Or is the name completely unrelated to the Irish and English ones?
Meaning of the word in modern Russian, is not obvious. I would translate it as the “Dance of Death”. “Baltimore” – radio call sign of the airfield “Voronezh-B”
Let the Indians are playing with AMCA. In 2015 – 2017 Russian will make LMFS, they can join and participate in the development, of course, if not for a long time to think 🙂
Well US/China are relatively less in Mediterranean than other places. it seem real threat is from Middleast
If I understand you correctly.
Russian is not interested in “other places.” Russian Black Sea Fleet must have access to the Mediterranean Sea, this duty squadron based there.
The reason: U.S. aircraft carrier can bomb south of Russia, not entering into the Black Sea
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TkwgVCdRMUs
First design (with canards) is badass. Any more drawings/CGI/etc. of this design available?
No other pictures. Very little information about the project