Originally posted by DazDaMan
DanI’d love to see a side profile of Robert Shaw’s Spitfire in the Battle of Britain movie, if you can do one 😉
If you’ve got a photo you can scan of it somewhere, I’m sure I could do it.
Dan
One more try
I tried to post my attempt at G-AMAU for you Black6 but the forum all of a sudden won’t let me post a pic. Same size as the others so I don’t know what the problem is.
I’ll try again tomorrow
Dan
Originally posted by von Perthes
Dan,Can you send me a PM with your e-mail address, and some info re what sort of, & how much reference material you need, and roughly how long it takes to do a profile etc.
The only profile I could do with at the moment is Hurricane IIb Z3436 of No 302 sqdn, around the June/July 1941 period. The problem is I don’t know the individual code letter it carried, and I would need it by the 19th October. I’ll try a thread on the forum, see if anyone else can help re Z3436.
I know it’s a very tall order, so don’t worry if you can’t help.
Geoff.
When it’s an aircraft I already have a template done for, it doesn’t take long. From my stuff, this is the look I could find, although it might be that the fin flash was thinner and taller. I don’t know the code letter for that particular Hurri, so I stuck A on for now, but it’s easy enough to change.
The attached is the first attempt with the info I have in my own information, just for fun 🙂
Dan
Originally posted by von Perthes
Dan,I really like the profile. Can you produce these to order for various RAF/Luftwaffe types, if enough reference material is there? I’m editor of the Shoreham Aircraft Museum’s quarterly newsletter (see http://www.shoreham-aircraft-museum.co.uk or the September issue of FlyPast) and it would be great to include similar profiles (in colour or B&W) to go with articles, or with a display in the museum. Naturally, you would recieve full credit for either.
Geoff.
Geoff,
I’m glad you like the profile. I just do them for fun. I’d be happy to take a crack at some. So far I’ve stuck to various Spitfires of varying marks, Hurricane IIs, and 51B,C, D, Ks.
Attached an attempt at a Hurri IIc
I’m still learning, and there are folks who do them a heckuva lot better. Hopefully I’ll catch up someday.
Dan
I can remember as a 12 or 13 year old in the early 70s, standing on a Baseball field in Minnesota and hearing a sound I hadn’t heard before. Looking up there was a flight of 3 B17 firebombers passing over fairly low headed north to fight the forest fires.
As the ceiling of my room at that point was covered with model B17s, with Spits and 109s dancing around them, it was something to see the real deal pass overhead
I grew up near Crystal airport where the late Jack Sandberg had his hangers so the sound of his P63 Kingcobra Tipsy Miss, whistling overhead was a common occurance as was the arrival and departure of various 51s that came to have engine work done.
I remember biking over one time to see a P51D, and the EAA’s XP51 parked outside the hanger, while next to it in pieces sat the P51C that now flies with the Southern Minnesota Wing of the CAF. I wonder how many times that’s happend where 3 different versions of the 51 were in the same spot? in particular in the late 1970s
Later the D and XP51 were both airborne. The sound was fantastic.
Dan
No regrets Skipper1944. That you took the time and showed the interest was the important part.
I ran into the same thing researching ‘my’ B24 crew from the 454th BG out of Italy. Of the 5 that survived the crash, of “Terrible Terry” in 45 only 3 were still living when I went hunting for the story.
It took me a couple years to find the third survivor. He couldn’t believe anyone cared. He’d never talked to his family about it and he had three sons. My asking questions opened that door and lead to his writing a 40 page biography of his wartime experiences for his family. I was lucky enough to get a copy. He passed away shortly afterwards.
It always meant a lot to me that I got there in time to get the story going so his kids could know as they should have known what their dad went through.
What ifs, after the fact do no good. You should be proud of the fact that you got there in time to get the story out for his family.
Dan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark V
[B]Thats right warbirduk. You can find evidence of just about every permutation of application of invasion stripes. In some cases they are quite neatly done with teh codes and serials unobscurred. In others they look like they were “put on with a 12 inch soft broom” to quote Mark 12.
Spit XII from the same time frame/Wing MB854 EB-Z. Seems like that was their particular late summer version as this was an August 44 photo.
Dan
Being a Spitfire XII fanatic I always liked that with 91 Squadron I could have my initials on an XII and have it historically accurate 🙂
DL-J works
Dan
I think I’ll fly in at the controls of Spitfire Mk 1a P9306. It was the first Spit I ever saw for real back in about 1968 at the impresionable age of 8. It lead to a load of Spitfire models built and a lifelong passion.
While it’s not a clipped wing Spit XII, my favorite Spit, I don’t know that I could get away with bringing EN224 as I don’t know that there was really enough left to bring in 55.
I’d bring a clipped wing XVIe like Mark12 as they come in a close second to the XII, but in keeping with the spirit of the B of B, P9306 makes a good choice.
Of course she’d be nicely restored to her B of B markings of 74 Squadron
Dan
I can’t remember which book I saw that photo in, and I can’t find it among my Spitfire books, but I swear I remember the caption saying it was an OTU Spit
Dan
08/07/44 Spitfire lX ML366 Flt/Lt R Collis of 126Sqn
Ron Collis is still around I believe. I corresponded with him briefly in the late 80s about his time flying the Spit XII with 41 Squadron prior to his going to 126. He has done some writing of his own as well as artwork. He has a website at:
http://www.fishon.com/rcollis.html
It’s not been updated in some time and he didn’t respond to a recent e-mail.
My understanding is he was hit by flak over the Channel and bailed out.
Not much, but I hope that helps 🙂
Dan
The only things factual that I’ve seen in the movie is they used the real guy’s name and he was shot down. Other then that, it’s one of those movies that tries to hide behind ‘based on a true story” to give it credibility while using an almost completely different ‘Hollywood” story.
Lt Col Iceal Hambleton was the Navigator on an EB66 that was shot down by a SAM on April 2, 1972. He was the only survivor. Numerous aircraft including A1s and OV10s as well as Helicoptor gunships, jets and other choppers took part in the ongoing rescue attempts that cost a number of aircraft and lives. Eventually one of the survivors of a shot down OV10 and Hambleton worked their way out and met up with Marines coming up a river to find them. He was down 12 days.
It was not one pilot flying all those hours over him etc etc.
Dan
The photos reminded me of this one of a Spit 22 from “The Spitfire Log” by Peter Haining
The spinner is more dinged up, but if the caption is correct, this was sold in 1955 to someone. The paint scheme has that same non-descript look. Can’t really tell about the tire tread. And of course I don’t know which Spitfire 22 this is/was.
Dan
Thanks Skipper! Thats just what I was looking for. Don’t ya just love the internet! 🙂
Dan