It was just a ferry flight. Across the Mersey.
I’m wondering if this comment can be classified as a war crime? 🙂
I guess you did reference a Gerry, although I thought my pacemaker was acting up when I read it first;)
It was really only tried on the one day, April 7, 1945. Too little too late. It was done out of the same desperation as the Kamakazi. The hope, and it was really just the dreaming of desperate leaders, was that they could somehow inflict such terrible losses that it might make a difference.
Didn’t happen. The escorts clobbered most, and I don’t know that there were very many actual successful collisions.
Good book on it is “The Last Flight of the Luftwaffe-The Suicide Attack on the Eighth Air Force, 7 April 1945” by Adrian Weir. The 109s were not F models but late model G and K lightened up for the job. Lots of personal accounts from both sides in the Weir book.
I remember going past Bassingbourne in 1980 and seeing what looked to be a “Grant” tank that appeared to be a gate guardian. Any idea if it’s still there?
I remember going past Bassingbourne in 1980 and seeing what looked to be a “Grant” tank that appeared to be a gate guardian. Any idea if it’s still there?
Can anyone suggest what is the emblem in the white (?) disc either side of the fin, above the flash, on the excellent images posted by Dan Johnson?
Just to clarify, those aren’t my photos. I remembered seeing them and dug through all the books and found each in separate books.
I posted them for the sake of the discussion about no canopy, not to suggest they were mine.
Apologies if I crossed a line somewhere.
“Serenade to the Big Bird” Bert Stiles. Written in the moment. He didn’t survive the war. He was a B17 Co-pilot with the 91st BG and died in a Mustang on a second tour with the 339th FG.
“A basis in fact” is a fair summary, I think. But that is a long way from a factually accurate historic account. At least it is probably streets ahead of “Fly For Your Life!” in that respect.
However, and turning to the title of this thread, I have letters from two pilots flying with Bader in the Tangmere Wing in the summer of 1941 and one from a witness (pilot on the ground) who saw a fatal collision on 21 May 1941 between two of the wing Spitfires caused, say the witnesses, when Bader turned across in front of them on approach to Tangmere. As far as I recall the incident isn’t mentioned in RFTS.
I’d suggest a book by a certain author who hangs around here called “Bader’s Last Flight” for a reasonable look at this subject 🙂
Who needs a canopy anyway?



Thanks for that gents. Time to figure out if missing means he didn’t make it back.
🙁 Found it. F/O William Sydney Large, age 26. KIA 1/1/43.
Changes the entire view of the photo now.
SeaDog.
When you have teachers who come out with stupid remarks as such, what hope for the youth of today?.
I hope he/she got a right dressing down.Jim.
Lincoln .7
Two things.
First. My oldest daughter is a teacher. She works her tail off teaching her kids. How bout we don’t generalize comments about teachers. Good ones don’t make news.
Second: In the end it’s the parents job to make sure their kids have a good understanding of their history and heritage. A teacher can only plant the seeds. If it’s not encouraged at home, why would the kid care?
Say it isn’t so! Not….the….BLUE…camo!
Spitfire I, XII
Seafire LIII
Single seat Hunter
Comet
Mosquito
Hornet
Beaufighter VI
Lancaster
Late model Firefly
Well to make my weekend, for me it had to be three Mk I Spitfires adjacent, on the ground and in the air…and I achieved that.
Did you ever in your wildest imagination think you’d see this when you got into the Spitfire history world Mark?
Absolutely amazing.
Good piece of detective work, Paul!
I had looked, but didn’t find it.
Certainly seems credible that the button could well be associated, then. Although other possibilities cannot be excluded.
Meanwhile, this link on the Italian website is worth a view:
I know in the end it’s just a bunch of metal put together into a machine, but save the poor girl for heaven’s sake!
I’d say she’s earned some tender loving care out of the sun after all these years. If for no other reason then to remember the loss of the pilot who tried to save her.
The RAAF had three Newman brothers. Barney flew Spit XII with 41 Squadron. He was killed in August 45 with 79 Squadron in a Spit VIII. His older brother John flew Beaufighters with 30 squadron and was lost to flak in late 43. A younger brother was a Boston gunner and the only one to survive the war.