Looks like the Brazil deal will come down to a competition between the Super Hornet’s capability and the Rafale’s political advantages.
Since the US just bought Super Tucanos, the pressure is now on Brazil to buy something in return, namely Super Hornets.
I think the key difference between China and Indonesia are:
1. Despite having some minorities, China is mainly Han Chinese.
While non-Hans are less than 10% of population, they still amount to some 100 million, a huge number by any standard. When you have 100 million people unhappy with the Han Chinese rule, troubles arise.
2. China does not have religious tensions like in Indonesia where religion is fueled and/or is fuelling ethnic and other conflict.
Surely China does. Never heard of Tibetan Buddhism and Islam of Uyghurs and Huis?
In fact, China’s permitting Western missionaries in Tibet to create a religious conflict between Tibetan Buddhism and Christianity in Tibet and weaken the Tibetans. http://world.time.com/2013/03/08/good-lord-in-china-christian-fundamentalists-target-tibetans/
China is going to buy Russian Su-35. An intergovernmental agreement was signed, and a contract should follow soon according to The Voice of Russia.
I don’t know how realiable VoR is, but the article seems quite detalied. Any Russian user could confirm with other sources?
If I recall well, the possible sale of SU-35 to China was under the precondition of a substantial number of A/C to be bought in order to prevent the developing of a local type by reverse engineering the model.
China’s J-20 Fighter Might Need Russian Engines
AIN DEFENSE PERSPECTIVE » MARCH 8, 2013
by BRIAN HSUOne of China’s J-20 prototypes receives attention; this one might be a ground-test article only. (Photo: Chinese Internet)
March 7, 2013, 6:00 PMAs China reaches an agreement with Russia to buy Sukhoi Su-35 fighters, the domestic J-20 fighter program might have developed problems that China cannot solve on its own anytime soon.
In contrast to the optimism based on a few photos, however, the fact that China has yet to succeed in developing a powerful engine for the J-20–the much-expected WS15–tells a different story. Of the two J-20 prototypes that have been made known to the public, one is powered by the Russian-made AL31FN and the other by the domestically built WS10G. The Chinese version of the Su-27SK, the J-11, is powered by the WS10A. Many observers believe that a strong incentive for China to buy the Su-35 is the airplane’s 117S engine, an AL31 derivative.
The Su-35 purchase are for the engines to be used in the J-20, since Russia wouldn’t sell just the engines.
Gladly.
2. There are over 100 antennas of various functions on the KJ-2000, making it the world’s most capable AWAC.
Non-sense.
3. KJ-2000 uses 3 AESA radars, claimed to be the best in the world.
Non-sense again.
4. AWACs have a history of some 70 years dating back to WW2. The Chinese used only 40 years to develop some of the best AWACs in the world.
Non-sense three times.
Chinese are literally decades behind the West in avionics; this is according to foreign customers of Chinese weapons like Pakistan.
US F-35C
The US Navy is the service most likely to dump the F-35.
Spain F-35B
No money
Possible…
Japan F-35B
South Korea F-35B
Both are considering full regular carriers, not LHDs.
Nothing holds Japan back with China making threats and the LDP ready to cross out the Article 7.
The Korean parliament approved the initial study for two carriers. To the surprise of many, what the study studies for are two regular carriers operating in the South China Sea, not LHDs.
Should the US Navy dump the F-35C, then the F-35 is out of contest with either naval services as they would need normal naval jets.
Australia F-35B
Maybe, but nothing concrete.
India F-35B and/or F-35C
India will operate Naval Tejas and Mig-29Ks.
The pilots, all of whom had at least 1,000 hours in other U.S. fighter jets, complained that the radar was often not working, their state-of-the-art helmets gave them double-vision or blurry vision, and their flight suits were too hot.
They also blasted a design feature that made it difficult if not impossible to see “aft,” or behind them — a serious threat to the aircraft’s ability to fight.
“The head rest is too large and will impede aft visibility and survivability during surface and air engagements,” one pilot was quoted as saying. “Aft visibility will get the pilot gunned (killed) every time.”
The report also found problems with maintaining the F-35s.
For example, mechanics are supposed to be able to remove the aircraft’s engine and install a new one in two hours, but the mean time was 52 hours — or more than two days.
I do not understand any benefit for the SH International to a nation.
Fortunately, the US Navy sees the potential benefits that you do not see.
US Navy considers Super Hornet enhancements, but no decision expected soon
By: Gareth Jennings Published: 09 Jul 2012
The US Navy (USN) is in “co-operative discussions” with Boeing on retrofitting enhancements to its F/A-18E/F Super Hornet combat aircraft, a navy official said at the Farnborough Airshow 2012.
Captain (USN) Frank ‘Spanky’ Morley, Program Manager for the F/A-18E/F and EA-18G (PMA-265), said that the navy was looking at the viability of fitting several key enhancements offered by Boeing to international customers, but that no firm decisions had been made.
“While we are in co-operative discussions, the US Navy is not committed yet,” he said, adding that the navy would wait on Boeing’s efforts to sign up an international customer for these upgrades before deciding whether to follow suit.
And will Chinese continue to produce J-10/J-11 in 2025-40? And whom to?
I think the JF-17 will have a rather long lifespan as China’s F-5.
Also J-31 will primarily an export fighter due to the PLA’s rejection of it.
I suspect KFX main market will be Asian and in particular those that don’t like China.
Aside from Indonesia which signed up, the KFX’s marketing outlook is bleak in Asia; there are few countries with enough money to buy it, and those who can afford to prefer to build their own(ie Japan’s F-3, India’s AMCA).
The KFX’s primary market would likely be Middle East and South America.
I think the KFX’s main competitor will be the F-35!
This is why Lockheed is refusing to participate in the KFX program, while the EADS and Boeing pledged to. Hence the winner of the F-X will be one of these two willing vendors.
Upgrading F-15Ks to SE seems unlikely. Maybe the internals would get upgraded to SA standard to ease maintenance might be an option.
The F-15K’s avionics upgrade similar to the F-15S’s upgrade to the F-15SA standard is inevitable due to maintenance issues.
It is generally the electronics components that are hard to source and replicate.
Tornado can do low-level penetration.
JH-7 is primarily a naval strike platform against the US CBG.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/kf-x-paper-pushing-or-peer-fighter-program-010647/
In the interim, KAI’s FA-50 is emerging as a low-end fighter to replace existing ROKAF F-5s and F-4s, and South Korea is scheduled to have its F-X-3 competition decided before the KF-X resumes. That could leave them with a high-end fleet plan of 80-100 stealth-enhanced F-15SE Strike Eagles, split between new buys and upgrades. It’s fair to ask where an expensive KF-X program would fit in that mix, especially when even on-budget performance of WON 14 billion for development and production could buy and equip over 110 more F-15SEs, instead of 130-150 “F-33s”.
Boeing is close to having its launch customer for the Silent Eagle in a contest where the F-35 purchase is illegal. That would open the way for Saudi purchase of the Silent Eagle.
Potential large scale users (100-200 aircraft):
– Japan
42 Max. Will transition to the F-3 from 2028 and onward.
– South Korea
The F-35 has already been virtually eliminated in the Korean contest. It is now a two horse race between the Silent Eagle and the Typhoon over there.
– Australia (though I’ll say 48-72)
50 Max. The Aussie F-35 numbers can only go down from 50, not up.
– RAF
The UK is broke and can’t afford the F-35.
– Saudi Arabia
Israeli veto likely.
– UAE
Ditto.
Yet here RAAF is planning to expand the F/A-18F/G fleet whilst delaying F-35 buys.
Each Aussie Super Hornet/Growler is a one to one direct replacement of the F-35.
SAAB will do it by themselves.
Check out FS 2020, its not a Gripen replacement but rather a complement. It will probably be the first western 5th gen air superiority fighter made for “exportability”.
Saab pitched P305(Single engine version) to India, and P306(Twin engine version) to Korea. Both rejected. Saab is still working on KFX program as a consultant, though
The P305/306 cannot happen without a foreign customer.
1. Is JAS-39A-D 4.5 generation or is it really 4th generation?
4.5 gen.
2. Other than being cheap to operate, what other advantages does a JAS-39 have over upgraded F-16 or F/A-18A-D?
Lower RCS than the Typhoon, Rafale, F-16 and F/A-18 according to Canadian evaluations.
3. In terms of performance, is JAS-39 even comparable to much heavier Rafale and Eurofighter?
No.
Boeing’s Super Hornet marketing campaign to Canada has begun.
Boeing touts fighter jet to rival F-35 — at half the price
Super Hornet less stealthy, but has lower sticker price and operational costsAfter years of technical problems, it’s a tempting target for Lockheed Martin’s rivals.
It’s no surprise, then, that the No. 2 defence contractor, Boeing, smells blood.
With Ottawa now reviewing its previous commitment to buy the F-35, Boeing is making an aggressive pitch to Canadian taxpayers, offering to save them billions of dollars if they buy Boeing’s Super Hornets instead.
Psst! Wanna save $23B?
And that’s where the difference between the F-35 and the Super Hornet rockets into the stratosphere.“The current actual costs to operate a Super Hornet are less than half the cost that the F-35 is projected to be once it’s in operation, just to operate,” says Mike Gibbons, vice-president in charge of the Super Hornet program.
Less than half? But how can he know that, since the F-35s are not yet in service?
Oh an btw my frustration (not bias) comes from having witnessed in the last decade or so what your “democratic” and “free” country is all about, the wars , the suffering they subject millions of peoples to, the injustice, and in general the big guy (US) abusing the small guy just because he can, that what’s driving my frustration up.
Then you haven’t seen China. The US is a heaven next to China.
WHY, would the U.S. even consider containing India?
The context of that story was that India could not be contained by the US Navy, much less the Chinese navy, due to the vast open ocean surrounding the Indian continent. The same isn’t true of China, which is surrounded by pro-US island chains and could easily be naval blockaded if the US willed it.