Ok I get you, but wouldn’t technology be easier in 2030?
No. The progress in AI technology has been lagging and has not produced an AI system that could be used for autonomous combat missions.
This is why F-X, F/A-XX, and the Next-Gen Bombers are all manned. Current drones require human intervention via satellite link, which exposes them to the risks of jamming and signal tracking, so you need a human pilot onboard to fly the mission while being totally radio silent.
The only way to solve this problem is to have a human operator fly with drones in the backseat of a fighter jet and communicate with drones via secure communication.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/04/24/2550392/pentagons-budget-cuts-could-slow.html
Pentagon’s budget cuts could slow F-35 program, Congress told
Lt. Gen. Christopher C. Bogdan, the Pentagon’s executive officer of the F-35 program, told a Senate Armed Services subcommittee that he has “moderate confidence” that the first two software upgrade phases needed to complete the program will be delivered on time, but is less optimistic that the final phase will be completed as scheduled because of mandated budget cuts, known as sequestration, in the current fiscal year.
President Barack Obama’s proposed budget for next fiscal year would give $6.36 billion to plan to build 29 F-35s for 2014, and would increase production to as many as 60 aircrafts a year by 2018.The F-35 program’s eight partner countries, including the United Kingdom, are carefully watching the costs of F-35s. The United States pushed back an order of 179 planes for later, which caused Italy to reduce its jet order from 140 planes to 90. Canada and the Netherlands, too, have cut back on plane orders, Bogdan said, though Singapore is showing interest.
According to Bogdan,
1. Block 3F may not make the 2019 deadline.
2. Italy, Canada, and Netherlands have indeed cut their F-35 orders.
I think the 5th Gen era is the last manned era for fighter jets. 6th Gen will be all unmanned. 🙁
No, the AI technology is not there to allow unmanned air dominance fighter jets. 6th gen A2A fighters will still be manned, at least both Boeing and Lockheed 6th gen concepts still feature cockpits.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/24/us-lockheed-fighter-idUKBRE93N19U20130424
Pentagon sees some risk of delay in F-35 software
The Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program on Wednesday said there was “some risk” that software being developed by Lockheed Martin Corp for the Air Force version of the new fighter plane would be delayed beyond late 2017.
Air Force Lieutenant General Christopher Bogdan, the Pentagon’s program executive officer for the F-35 program, said work on the software known as Block 3F was the biggest risk currently facing the $396 billion F-35 program, the Pentagon’s largest weapons program.
He said he would have a better idea when work would be completed on the software after a critical design review scheduled to be completed this summer.
Any delay in work on the Block 3F software could delay the initial operational use of the new fighter plane by the Air Force. The Marine Corps plans to start using the new fighter jets around mid-2015 using a slightly less capable version of the software known as Block 2B.
So the F-35A IOC is being pushed back into the next decade, because Lockheed cannot deliver the finished software for testing by the end of 2017 as required for 2019 IOC.
You have the mistaken impression that F/A-18 was designed as an air-to-air airplane. It was not.
Well, it is the best A2A aircraft the Navy got to work with at the moment until the arrival of its replacement F/A-XX.
We have yet to see how the requirements shake out for FA-XX. Maybe it will take a greater A2A role, or maybe it will extend the A2G role to a greater distance than F-35C can achieve. My bet is the later.
In the F/A-XX era, the roles will be split between manned and unmanned jets; the manned jets are two seaters where the backseat pilot controls drones, while the bulk of bombs will be carried by X-47 like subsonic bomb mule drones controlled by the F/A-XX’s back seat pilot. This way, the F/A-XX doesn’t have to worry about weapons payload and focus on high agility and survivability, while the bomb mule drones can be stripped of cost.
So the F-35 will never get a new engine in its 3-4 decade of operation??
Not without a new cooling solution or a new engine(ADVENT) that runs cooler.
F/A-18E the “Hi” to the F-35C “Low”???
The “Hi” was to be NATF which never happened.
“Hi”‘s job is to protect “Low”
“Low”‘s job is to bomb ground targets.
“Hi” F-14 protects “Low” A-6 and F/A-18 on strike missions.
“Hi” F-15 protects “Low” F-16 on strike missions.
“Hi” F-22 protects “Low” F-35A on strike mission.
“Hi” Super Hornet protects “Low” F-35C on strike mission.
Plus, is the Super Hornet clean or carrying external stores???
A2A armament for the “Hi” role.
The F-35 on the otherhand is very likely to get upgraded engines. Which, are currently in development.
The F-35’s airframe isn’t able to support a higher output engine due to cooling issues.
Useless Missile laser warning and 5th Gen cockpit. Well the 5th Gen cockpit might be useful for the WSO seat.
Large display is important for situational awareness; the F-15C Golden Eagle pilots want a large display to make the most use out of its powerful AESA radar.
.Sorry, but the Super Hornet will not out match the F-35C with or without the Upgraded F-414 EPE Turbofans in the Air to Air Role.
So you haven’t heard that the regular Super Hornet outruns F-35C, which is one of the slowest accelerating combat jet in recent history.
So, don’t expect to see a major make over for the Super Hornet.
The US Navy wants the International Roadmap upgrades.
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And slowman has said himself in the North Korean thread that South Korea can’t take on the North without the US’s help…
Actually a lot of intelligence services are monitoring the PLA deployment in Sichuan right now, to see if the PLA has made any progress in rapid troop deployment since 2008. Fortunately for the world they haven’t.
I was thinking Vietnam would be high on the list of possible countries that would purchase the PAK-FA. So, besides Russia, India, and possibly Vietnam. What other countries are likely to buy Russia’s first 5th Generation Fighter???:confused:
Russia doesn’t appear to be interested in exports until the PAK-FA enters service with its air force.
Post-quake rescue operations expose China’s military aircraft weaknesses
Military enthusiasts are disappointed China relies on US and Russian aircraft in post-earthquake operations rather than home-made hardware
Wednesday, 24 April, 2013, 4:46am
Minnie ChanThe widespread use of US- and Russian-made helicopters during rescue missions in the quake zone in Sichuan’s Yaan city has again exposed weaknesses in China’s home-made rescue aircraft.
Military analysts said domestic-made rescue helicopters lack the ability to carry heavy loads and are less capable at handling extreme weather conditions. Some chalk the disparity up to Beijing’s focus on the development of advanced fighter jets and other general-purpose planes.
At this point, quake victims in the worst-hit Lushan county may find it a familiar sight to see US-made Sikorsky Black Hawks, Russian Mi-17 series helicopters and Moscow’s Ilyushin Il-76TD cargo planes flying overhead after Saturday’s magnitude 7 quake.
Mainland military enthusiasts said they were disappointed when China Central Television reported that the first two helicopters sent to Lushan were a Black Hawk and Mi-17. Some asked when China would make its own “Black Hawk”, and why the most-advanced home-made armed helicopter, the WZ-10, and the military’s Y-20 cargo plane weren’t used in rescue work.“China doesn’t yet have enough medium-lift helicopters or cargo planes, as our research and development efforts on those two types of aircraft are still in progress,” said Xu Guangyu , a former general and senior researcher at the Beijing-based China Arms Control and Disarmament Association.
He said the Chinese air force sent home-made WZ-9 and WZ-8 armed helicopters to assist in the rescue operations, but neither is able to play an important role because of their limited capacity and capabilities.
“The US’ [Black Hawk] helicopters were sent to the front line to handle immediate rescue efforts because of their heavy-load capacity, and suitability for highlands and extreme weather conditions,” Xu said.
The People’s Liberation Army Air Force’s Chengdu Military Command said they sent at least 10 helicopters to disaster areas on Saturday, and several dozen were on standby.
All of them were either Black Hawks or Mi-17 aircraft, the Chengdu -based West China City Daily quoted a commander as saying.
“The service life of the Black Hawks is almost up, as all of them have flown nearly 30 years,” said Antony Wong Dong of the Macau-based International Military Association.
“The widespread use of US and Russian helicopters in quake rescue and relief efforts indicates that Beijing has made fighter jets and other weapons its priorities in its military modernisation,” Wong said.
China spent about US$150 million to buy 24 medium-lift utility S-70C Black Hawk helicopters and related parts from the US-based Sikorsky Aircraft Corp in 1984, according to a report by the China Youth Daily that said China still has 20 of the aircraft.
“We know our weaknesses in aircraft technology, especially with multi-role armed helicopters, but so far we can focus only on utility helicopters, which can be used in coastal, eastern and southern areas,” Xu said.
But if we buy all of the upgrade’s somehow one of the upgrades could end up being USELESS.
Which would be useless?
Any single upgrade doesn’t make a compelling case by itself, but the combination of all four creates a powerful F-35 alternative that is faster, more capable, yet cheaper. So all four must be bought as a package.
Is this safe? Does it result in same level combat capability?
Does Canada need same level of combat capability?
It’s not like one can pull high-G in a real F-35 anyway, so simulator may be good enough considering the advances in videogames.
Someone buying F-35s in 2025 will pay a lot less than someone buying F-35s in 2015.
Not necessarily, because you bet a Big Mac cost $10 in 2025, and the minimum wage would be $20/hr.