http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_11_26_2012_p22-516490.xml

On the positive side, Wells says F-22 capabilities are improving, as are training standards. “We’ve been flying the F-22 like an F-15,” he says. At the same time, steps are being taken to prepare pilots better for the F-22. New pilots coming from T-38 training fly eight “high-performance lead-in” sorties in F-16s before taking on the Raptor because, Wells says, “we learned that pilots coming out of the T-38 on to the F-22 did not do well. That’s something that nations buying the F-35 should consider.”

This bods well for the T-50, as the USAF-spec model with an F414 engine is the only one that can proximate the flight profile of an F-16 and the USAF experiences have shown that the trainees do better when they fly a high performance jet(F-16) before coming to an F-22’s cockpit.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_11_21/Su-35-does-Russia-need-Chinese-contract/

Su-35: does Russia need Chinese contract?
Nov 21, 2012 14:46 Moscow Time

Russia and China have clinched a preliminary agreement on the delivery of 48 Sukhoi Su-35BM fighter jets to the Chinese air force, sources in Russia’s Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation said on Wednesday.
The agreement worth 1.5 billion dollars may add to the Su-35 foraying into international markets even though Russia’s cooperation with China in this field is fraught with substantial risks.

The Su-35BM is the modernized version of the T-10C platform that helped create the internationally distinguished Su-27 and Su-30 multi-role fighters. They have become the Russian-made warplanes of choice for foreign customers in the past twenty years.

So China finally gets a hold of 96 117S engines for $1.5 billion.

In China, they make yuan, not dollars :rolleyes:

Take $3,000 to China, exchange for yuan, and you have as much money as a typical Chinese worker’s annual salary.

Big yes, but hardly sluggish.

Can’t turn and climb as fast as other jets.

J-20 is a carrier strike platform and an interceptor. It is not meant to dogfight with the F-22 and F-15.

Jets life depend on engine life

A jet goes through several engines in its lifetime.

where did you get that 15 years from ?

A typical US airframe is rated for 8000 hours. A typical Chinese airframe is rated for 3000~4000 hours. This is why Chinese jet fighters are scrapped only after 15 years of service.

Second world actually, the phrase reserved for communist country

After the fall of the communism, the first, second, third world designation refers to

First World : Developed countries, typically OECD nations.
Second World : Middle income countries, such as Brazil, Eastern Europe and Russia.
Third World : Countries where the quality of life and income is still poor, such as China.

Source please

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/05/us-china-parliament-security-idUSTRE82403J20120305

China domestic security spending rises to $111 billion
BEIJING | Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:06am EST

(Reuters) – China will increase spending on police, militia and other domestic security arms by 11.5 percent to $111 billion this year, figures released on Monday showed, ahead of a leadership succession that has kindled fear of instability.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-military-spending-to-top-100-billion-this-year/2012/03/04/gIQAJRnypR_story.html

China military spending to top $100 billion in 2012, alarming neighbors
By Keith B. Richburg, Published: March 4, 2012

BEIJING — China’s Communist Party rulers plan to boost military spending by 11 percent this year, passing the $100 billion mark for the first time and renewing questions about the country’s long-term intentions.

The twice the defense budget quote was what I heard on the radio while driving which is wrong, but the fact remains that China spends billions more on its internal security on censorship, the Great Firewall of China, the dissident crackdown, and the suppression of Tibetan and Uyghur independence movements than it does on national defense. That is a sign of a country with lots of internal problems.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324712504578130831609103150.html

Boys’ Deaths Strike a Chinese Nerve
By JOSH CHIN

BEIJING—The discovery last week of the bodies of five children in a trash bin has rattled China’s online community, highlighting anger over the country’s wealth gap.

State-run Xinhua news agency on Tuesday said it had confirmed the identities of five boys, from nine to 13 years old, who it described as street children and who were found dead Friday inside a garbage container in the town of Bijie in southwestern Guizhou, one of China’s poorest provinces. The boys, all surnamed Tao, likely died of carbon-monoxide poisoning after lighting a fire inside the bin and climbing inside to take shelter from the cold, state media said, citing local police.

The death of five boys has started an online frenzy of criticism from China’s Internet users. The WSJ’s Josh Chin talks about the unspoken topic of China’s growing poor and why it’s a black mark for socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Bijie, where the children lived, is a coal-rich but poverty-stricken city with a reputation for corruption that has sent a steady stream of petitioners to Beijing in recent years. A number of the city’s residents have left to work in other places, leaving children in the care of grandparents or relatives.

The nation’s wealth gap ranks near the top of a long list of problems facing China’s next generation of leaders, led by newly appointed Communist Party chief Xi Jinping. When China first began economic reforms in 1978, the vast majority of Chinese families were on roughly equal financial footing. Now the top 10% of Chinese families control 56% of income, according to a recent survey by Texas A&M University professor Gan Li, a figure that makes China more unequal than some African countries. Last week, Mr. Xi won applause online for an inaugural speech that said the party needed to do more to improve people’s livelihoods.

China is no “Second World” country because the vast majority of population still live in incredible poverty, with a handful of rich taking all the money and living like emperors.

Why get SU-35 just for the engines?

Because Russia won’t sell just the engines.

If China just wants the engines then they can stup up the money for a large order!

And Russia will turn down the order.

IR stealth is impossible.

Flying objects at high speed heat up, and emits IR signature. The only way to not be IR detectable is to maintain -30C ambient temperature.

LOL, as expected, this bird just an export oriented product, no way an ongoing PLA project will be showcased in public.

Then what’s going to replace the PLAAF’s low-end jets? J-20? Chinese jets don’t last long and need to be replaced every 15 years.

There has to be a parallel low-end jet to accompany the J-20. After all, J-20 is a high speed interceptor/anti-ship platform and isn’t suitable for dogfights.

Or could that plane be borrowed or exchanged from DPRK for study ? and that can explained the psed PLAAF sign, cause the numbers painted on the intake confused me otherwise, i never saw a chinses plane using that kind of number font. It’s like DPRK or old Russian style.

There are plenty of ex-communist bloc Migs and Sukhois for sale.

And is doing something rather similar with its F-16s. Currently negotiating with suppliers for a big upgrade, in fact. Remind me – how many engines do they have?

The ROKAF didn’t choose to buy the F-16. It was forced upon them by the dictator president and the Airforce chairman resigned in protest of the F-16 selection.

85% of South Koreans live in less than 5% of the area, so it’s not a major limitation.

It is a big limitation to the ROKAF.

And the ‘one engine bad, two engines good’ mantra is nonsense. Look up accident rates.

Indeed, compare the F-16 crash rate resulting from engine failure to F-15 or F/A-18’s engine failure crash rate.

Indeed I did – because it didn’t happen. What he (like his predecessors) has done is combine a bit of talking up British products – and not just weapons – while visiting other countries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/05/david-cameron-gulf-typhoon-fighter-jets

David Cameron heads to Gulf in bid to sell Typhoon fighter jets
Low-key mission will also attempt to patch up relations with leaders in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates

David Cameron will embark on a low-key arms trip to the Gulf on Monday in an attempt to persuade regional powers upset by Britain’s response to the Arab spring to buy more than 100 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. The deals could be worth more than £6bn to Britain.

Cameron will join forces with senior political and military figures from the UAE to inspect Typhoons at Al Minhad airbase, which is used as an air bridge for British forces flying between the UK and Afghanistan. Britain hopes to persuade Gulf leaders to buy 100 Typhoons on top of the 72 bought by Saudi Arabia.

The looming confrontation between Iran and its regional adversaries will also feature heavily in Cameron’s talks with leaders in the Sunni-dominated Gulf countries. Britain could base Typhoons, built by a European consortium that includes BAE Systems, in the UAE if relations with Tehran deteriorate.

Cameron wants to persuade the UAE to buy the Typhoons to replace their ageing fleet of French Mirage jets. The Emiratis have expressed interest in ordering 60 of the jets. Oman has expressed interest in 12, while Saudi Arabia is considering placing a second order on top of the 72 they have already bought.

David Cameron the Typhoon sales man busy at work in UAE and Saudi Arabia.

Yes – but not when the aircraft if question are already in the second half of their lives.

Old cars cost more to maintain than new cars.
Old jets cost more to maintain than new jets.

You are a liar.

Unfortunately, everything I have stated is factual.

One more crazy Korean prejudice against F-35. The Korean parliament defense committee wants to disqualify the F-35 right now because of noise problem. The Korean government pays $150 million a year to residents around airbases as noise compensation, and this cost could hit $500 million a year if super noisy F-35 are based, because the compensation is exponentially proportional to decibel measured.

So the ROKAF doesn’t want the F-35 because it is a single engine jet, and the parliament doesn’t want the F-35 because of the potential $500 million/year noise compensation cost.