I suppose the devil is in the details, the Hawk will need a redesign to meet the KPP. For example the USAF want a dry receptacle to allow air to air refuelling training (then again if they want that why not make it wet capable to actually allow the option of refuelling!).
That would be a quite challenge for all three, as there is not enough clearance for all three jets to put a boom type receptacle. M-346 appears to be quite more challenged than the other two due to the cockpit canopy “hump”.
Then there is the 6.5G sustained load requirement, which only the T-50 can meet without a modification.
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Hawk trainer compliant with T-X requirements, says BAE
By: DAVE MAJUMDAR WASHINGTON DC 4 hours ago Source:BAE Systems has responded to the US Air Force’s draft key performance parameters (KPPs) for its nascent T-X jet trainer programme to replace the venerable Northrop T-38 Talon.
“We responded to that here just recently,” says Bob Wood, BAE’s campaign lead for the T-X programme. “We’re very encouraged by the fact that the air force put that out.”
Having examined the KPPs in detail, BAE is confident that the Hawk will meet the USAF’s parameters. “The Hawk is going to meet all those requirements,” Wood says.
Not without a redesign, obviously.
Danish Military To Meet Lockheed, Boeing Over Fighter Replacement
Nov. 12, 2012 – 10:36AMDanish military officials will be visiting Washington this week in a major step toward restarting competition for their fighter replacement program. The delegation will meet with representatives from Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program and Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet.
Although Denmark is a partner in the JSF program, officials insist all options are on the table.
“No decision has been made,” said Lt. Col. Per Lyse Rasmussen, assistant defense attaché at the Danish Embassy. “We want an open and fair competition.”
The result of Korean contest will sway Denmark and others to go open bidding, especially when they compare the terms of F-35’s bid relative to much more generous terms from Boeing and EADS. The expected participants in Danish contest are the F-35, a Super Hornet variant, Typhoon, and Gripen E/F.
Why does LM & US government worry so much about losing an odd few dozen fighters in deals like Norway & Korea when they claim US will buy 2500 or so ?
Because it would trigger other JSF partner nations to bail out and take a look at Boeing’s RCS reduced offerings, and the US DoD is counting on exports to sustain the number of the overall F-35 production number.
If Typhoon and Silent Eagle are running neck to neck then the Boeing will I think. Why induct another type when they can adopt the F-15.
It all comes down to price. The ROKAF cannot wait for replacement jets any further and this is why they are rushing the selection at a breakneck pace.
Here is how the evaluation result looks like right now.
Performance : Silent Eagle
Offset : Typhoon. Boeing too met all of the DAPA’s requirement, it is that the Typhoon offer includes a $1 billion local assembly plant paid for by Eurofighter nations so the Typhoon is ahead.
Price : Typhoon <= subject to final rounds of price bidding.
Compatibility : Silent Eagle
The F-35 is reportedly running in distant third in all four categories. So it all comes down to the final price offer, and it could go either way.
http://nbiz.heraldcorp.com/view.php?ud=20121114000366
Lockheed Martin executives strongly urged the Korean government to delay the fighter jet selection by several years, saying that the F-35 gets cheaper in each passing year during a press conference held on November 13th.
This comes as an indirect confirmation from Lockheed that they are indeed running at the last place in the race as leaked by press earlier(The Silent Eagle and the Typhoon are running neck to neck), and Lockheed would rather delay the announcement of outcome than to accept the defeat which would have a decisively negative consequence for the F-35 as the JSF partners are rethinking their F-35 purchases and contemplating a bailout.
There’re still only 5 nations in this world can make highly rated turbofan engines in this world and all happen to be permanent UN security members.
Just four UNSC permanent members(China excluded). Add Canada to the engine maker list.
Japan can make more dependable and reliable jet engine than China does and Japan is not called a jet engine power.
China (PRC)
China will do fine. What they lack in quality, they make up in quantity and it works.
Japan – For unless the Japanese are willing to abolish its self-imposed weapons export band
That was lifted last year. Where have you been? One thing is clear. Japan is looking for a cost sharing partner nation(preferably the US), and will not proceed without one or two.
South Korea – But I wonder how much of their proposed 5th gen fighter can be built without the United States technology being used
87% excluding engine according to DAPA.
J-31 is supposed to be a product for SAC. What you are asking is like asking what a Honda Accord is supposed to be when there is Toyota Camry on the market. SAC needs a product to stay in business and J-31 is that product.
Anyway here it is deemed quite undoubted that UAE will eventually chose between the M-346 and the T-50, with little or no space for other competitors.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2012/11/01/0301000000AEN20121101004000315.HTML
S. Korea pushes to sell T-50 training jets to UAE’s flight training center
By Kim Eun-jung
SEOUL, Nov. 1 (Yonhap) — South Korea and the United Arab Emirates are in talks about jointly establishing a military flight training center in the Middle Eastern nation, officials said Thursday, a project that raises hopes for Seoul’s export of T-50 trainer jets.Negotiations are going in a direction that calls for the UAE to set up the facility with the help of foreign investments while South Korea exports the supersonic jet trainers, training equipment and flight technologies for the training center, officials said.
Assuming Argentina could afford them, 20+J-17s and maybe 12 J-20s would give the British fits.
The J-20 is a supersonic anti-ship missile launch platform intended to hit the US CBG. If Argentina has 20 of it along with 60 missiles., then the Royal Navy’s fleet may not even reach the Falklands this time.
1. Mitsubishi F-3 : Based on my reading of its technology, it really is a 6th gen fighter and is above F-22 especially against stealth targets.
2. YF-23 : The better jet doesn’t always win.
3. F-22 : Enough said.
4. PAK-FA : Kinetically superior to F-22, but inferior to the F-22 in stealth and electronics.
5. J-20
6. J-31
7. X-32 : If X-32 won, we would have them in service today at $60 million each.
8. F-35 : The worst US weapons program ever. A complete disaster.
Dude, the title should change to:
What UK should do if Argentina gets the new stealthy fighter.
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20120706000005&cid=1101
Puricelli also said Argentina is interested in purchasing the J-20, China’s fifth-generation stealth fighter, which is still in its development phase.
Since Hui Tong mentioned that the F-60/J-31 is developed with exports in mind, there is a good possibility that it will be exported to China’s loyal ally, Pakistan.
Pakistan certainly needs it to maintain parity with India’s interest in FGFA.. but is that enough? does India also need to fund more money into NASCAR?
More PAK-FA. Or join Japan’s F-3 program. The F-3 will take care of anything in the PLAAF’s inventory.
you put 0 for the US fighters, but the Silent Eagle is a Boeing product.
I thought we were talking about the F-35.