Vulcan XH558
A very good colour photo of the Vulcan in formation with the Blades Aerobatic Team in today’s Daily Telegraph. The accompanying text is very generalised and basically summarises the financial & engineering efforts required to get the Tin Triangle back in the air.
Toddington Ted,
By the way, you have a PM waiting to be read (top r/h corner of your screen)
Cheers….
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Thanks for the heads up, I’m a bit busy at the mo! I’m on it.
Nothing like old news!
Thank goodness I was on leave at the time, my office is not too far away from the “Tower”. It’s possible that the photos weren’t available for a while but clearly I can’t speculate any more (I wasn’t there honest!). It would appear from the blue and yellow insignia that this particular Hawk had once served with 208 (Reserve) Sqn. Heard from an oppo that the tower’s “Emergency State One” tannoy was a bit squeaky, for obvious reasons!
How does that saying go? Those that live in glass houses…..
Ah, well done Peter, you spotted the INTENTIONAL error in my footnote!
Enough said.
XM692, I’ll have a look for any spares if I can, since we do have a Harrier GR1 (I’ll check which one next week) cockpit in our materials lab and there may be some spare parts lurking around which might be surplus to requirements. I would have to go through the formal writeoff procedures for any such items but I’ll see what I can do. I regret that I cannot promise anything of course.
Ok so it was a “fighter” thats why its caller GR like a tornado GR4 i knew that before just didnt think
So the last british ground attack/fighter bomber what ever it be aircraft?? or am i wrong on this one to
I knew what i ment and most of you did im 16 i dont sit there a read in depth books or have 50yrs worth of knowlege like most of you have.
With the greatest respect young man I would expect someone of your age to to have a somewhat better grasp of spelling (a dictionary is most useful) and grammar. However, with education being what it is today perhaps I expect too much. When people write they should consider the following; “who is going to read this and will they understand me?” Bad spelling and grammar are irksome and I have been on the receiving end of criticism all my life but have been happy to learn from my mistakes.
Going back to the thread, well done XM692 for saving another Harrier cockpit; a much more realistic proposal for preservation than a huge chunk of airframe such as the Belslow.
Footnote: any syntax errors herein are purely accidental and unitentional.
A very enlightning comment, traditions are as they are I suppose, but would the thought police turn up and remove a flag, or to be specific, ‘ensign’ from a funeral, I would dare them to try. Had I known, then I wouldn’t have put my fathers favourite pipe on his coffin in case the anti smoking lobby turned up.
Pathetic, if W/O Gray lived his life serving the air force that he obviously loved, his family and friends should have the choice of whichever flag or, sorry, ensign, that they choose, if it was an official RAF funeral, ok, but to stick the nose of officialdom in at such a sad time is beyond comprehension, just let them get on with celebrating the life of a serviceman in the way they feel is right and if it means using the RAF flag, ensign or whatever, to drape over the coffin, so be it, the man obviously deserves the honour.
Pete Truman and FW190uk, I was only trying to be helpful as I had wondered why the RAF Ensign was not used at funerals (I had thought it would be) and so I found out. It may sound “pathetic” to you but many things in the Armed Forces may appear so to people like you; as you can see, RAFA have advised the same. Next time you see coffins of Service personnel being unloaded at Lyneham or Brize, please note that the Union Flag is always used. Once people have retired from the Service then there are choices but, in this case, the RAFA Ensign would be appropriate. I shall say no more on this matter but I will salute Mr Gray, “the man is greater than the flag”.
RAF Ensign not to be used to cover a coffin
I very much regret to inform you that Military Regulations state that the RAF Ensign should never be used to place over a coffin; only the Union Flag (for a serving member of the RAF or other service) should be used, so the EBay seller is presumably not aware of this. I have however seen the RAFA Ensign used but that is not the same as the RAF Ensign. As a serving RAF Officer I have to say that these are the current regulations regarding the RAF Ensign. You should be OK with the RAFA Ensign however. My sincere condolences regarding your late friend WO Gray, to reach the highest rank of airman is no mean feat.
Wow!
Most definitely one of those: “sights you thought you’d never see” events. Unfortunately I couldn’t see it in the flesh! Hoping to see some of the display tomorrow from Lincoln Castle but it won’t be the same as seeing that You Tube sight today! Many thanks for posting it!
Nissen Huts
My advice, don’t bother!
Makes you proud to be British, Happy Birthday.
Indeed. However, I also felt most humble this afternoon when I actually met him on his 112th birthday. My Boss was one of the team organising the event and when he asked for volunteers to have tea with Henry I was honoured to step forward (I have learned that it is not always the best thing to volunteer for additional duties in the RAF!) and be a very small part of it. Despite the somewhat poor weather, it didn’t rain and we had the BBMF flypast as well as a special message delivered by Chinook. The local schoolchildren sang “happy birthday Henry” in front of the RAF College steps and I felt somewhat overcome by it all for a moment at that point. Last Sunday I attended the 40th birthday of David Shepherd’s steam locomotive ownership and the BBMF did a thunderous flypast glinting in the sun over Toddington whilst all the steam locomotives whistled a response. An emotional but joyful week all in all!
I used to give a briefing to a flight safety course at Bentley Priory a few years ago so I know that is used to be the home of the RAF Inspectorate of Flight Safety. This is now a joint unit (like so much else in the Military) and is based at Northolt:
“With the closure of RAF Bentley Priory, the Defence Aviation Centre (DASC) and the Military Aviation Regulatory Team (MART) will relocate to RAF Northolt during Apr 08, where the organisation will formally stand up as the Directorate of Aviation Regulation and Safety (DARS). The DARS will subsume all the responsibilities of the DASC and the MART. The DARS will act as the MOD Central Staff point of contact for aviation regulatory and safety matters”.
The above was taken from the MOD Internet Website.
There are no other units based at Bentley Priory (that I know of) and so, although it provided some useful accommodation for personnel in the London area, it has been sold. Whilst this is a sad occasion it is not just a reflection of the real or imagined lack of ethos and culture by HMG, the RAF is today just a little smaller than it used to be. I joined in 1986 when there were over 90,000 personnel in the Service. Today there are currently less than 41,000 (it depends whether you count trained personnel and leave out personnel not yet completed training) and that is bound to have an effect on the RAF Estate. That said, recruiting is very active so anyone reading this should not be put off wanting to join!
Royal Air Force Honington
Mike Currill Tut Tut! Even though RAF Honington is no longer the home of the mighty Buccaneer (Although there is one on display by the Main Gate) it is still an RAF Station and the home of the Royal Air Force Regiment and Force Protection Centre. However, the RAF Regt can also “liberate” when appropriate I’m sure!
Manston Airport, if we go to war with Iran (why do people think we might?)then the Prime Minister will authorise the purchase of all the equipment we need overnight and conscript thousands of civilians into the UK armed forces within a week. Yes, right! Nurse, where’s my tablets?!
Back on thread, we do have a Chinook in the basement in the building where I work but its a training aid rather than a stored aircraft. I’m sure all you keen chaps know the serial number (I can’t remember it) and that its an ex-Falklands accident victim.
Thanks for posting the photos of the E28/39 replica. We are looking forward to having it as the centrepiece for our Whittle Centenary Event on 26 June, especially as the original made its first flight (officially!) from RAF Cranwell in May 1941. We will have a FSM of a more modern military aircraft there as well.
Wow! Fantastic! I can remember seeing loads of Tridents in that scheme at LHR. An excellent job!
Concorde Telegraph Saturday
There was also an article in the travel section (there’s optimistic isn’t it?) of last Saturday’s Daily Telegraph. In the article some knowledgeable chap opined that we keep much older aircraft like spitfires and hurricanes flying why not Concorde? Muppet.:mad:
Oh, btw, I think Concorde is a wonderful aircraft and SRB will do anything (well almost) for publicity.