for ‘obvious’ reasons went behind the scenes, proly telling all there mates to lets go and vote for Harry
hmm you definitely seem to be in the thick of some “behind the scenes” action.
Both Arthur and Harry have been on this forum before I had even seen the Internet (1999). crobato too prolly. I say this is the obvious reason why these guys have won the mandate.
Too late now, but too many newcomers (to this forum) were selected for voting, with lesser choices the competition would have been tougher.
This is what Harry mentioned:
HAL HTT-35
HTT-35 is designed to meet the IAF Air Staff Target 208. This details a replacement for both HPT-32 and HJT-16, inferring a requirement for more than 150 aircraft.
Unveiled in mockup form at Avia India 93 (Dec 1993), the HTT-35 is a conventional looking tandem seat low-wing monoplane, with a distinctively hump backed appearance and stepped cockpit covered by separate upward hinging canopies. The retractable tri-cycle undercarriage retracts inwards (main units) and rearwards (nose gear). The pilots will sit on lightweight ejection seats.
HAL hopes to use either the 1150 SHP Garrett TPE-331-12D (flat rated to 11 SHP / 819 KW) or the 1150 SHP P&W Canada PT6A-62 (flat rated to 950 SHP / 707 KW) to power the new aircraft.
Full scale development awaits a government nod, which HAL hopes to receive by Mid-94, leading to the first flight 24 months later.
Performance:
HAL claims a maximum level speed of 290 mph (470 kmph) at Sea Level with a stall speed in approach configuration of 80 mph (127 kmph).
The Take-Off to 50 ft (15 m) is 850 ft (260 m) and landing distance from 50 ft is 1900 ft (580 m). The sea level rate of climb is calculated as 4000 ft (1220 m) per minute, and service ceiling as 29,500 ft (9000 m).
The HTT-35 will be fully aerobatic, with a normal operating load factor of +6 to –3.8 and a fatigue life of 7000 flying hrs.
Weights:
The integral wing and fuselage tanks will carry 450 kg of fuel, with an inverted system allowing upto 30 s inverted flight. This gives a range of 790 miles (1270 km) and allows two high-density aerobatic/spinning sorties to be flown on a single load of fuel.
Underwing hardpoints (stressed for loads of up to 250 kg each allow the carriage of bombs, gun or rocket pods for weapons training of CI duty.
Hjt-36
atten crobato and Ken,
This was posted by George J @ BRF quoting Fomin’s flanker book:
George J Member Member # 2202
posted 24 April 2004 11:53 AM
The Su-27M (T10M-3 or Su-35 no 703) featured new wing panels with bigger fuel cells and increased area fins with internal fuel cells. This resulted in an increased fuel capacity by nearly a ton to a total of 10,250 kg. This was done to compensate for the heavier airframe (canards) which would have led to a decrease in range. Not this is a bird with conventional AL-31 engine.
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The MKK has ‘borrowed’ the Su-35 tail fins. But Fomin book say that the internal fuel laods of the Su-35, MKI and MKK are 10,250, 10,000 and 9,400 kgs respectively. But they carry same max warload and MKI and MKK have a slightly shorter range at high alt and sea level when compared with the Su-35 (note NOT the UB just the single seater).
Ken,
But the MKI still holds more internal fuel than the MKK, how is that made possible? Thank you for all the info.
Doesnt the MKI contain an ‘insert’ at the base of the moving rudder in the fin that correspondingly increases the height of the fin? :confused:
Flanker_Man,
Can you please confirm whether MKI fins carry fuel or not (at this stage) – I had read a long time back that all long-fin versions do. However, your graphics suggest that MKI does not carry fuel at all.
I always assumed that the rear seat always had a stick :confused: so what practice does the IDF/AF follow regarding the GIB seat – are these blokes qualified pilots of that machine? even though may not be required to touch the screen unless there is an emergency.
A potential disaster was averted in an IAF Su-30 some years back when the pilot did retract the undercarriage while landing, thankfully his WSO did it for him. 😮
Hmm, are those drawing accurate? I thought that the HF-73 was only a HF-24 with afterburners. :confused:
I still say that they (india) should retain some of the Su-30K/MKs for an exclusive agressor task 😎
These flankers were born in which factory? both single and double seaters?
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My ever favorite…
The HAL Sus will be a lot cheaper to manufacture, but the balance would be compensated by royalties that have to be paid to Irkut. HAL
http://vayu-sena.tripod.com/info-su30mki.html
HAL chairman Nalini Ranjan Mohanty has said that the Indian-built Su-30s will cost only about $22.5 million a unit against the current import price of about $37.5 million [Financial Express, 10-Dec-2001].
The last substantial thing I heard 1-2 years back was that the MCA was no longer envisioned as a tail-less design; instead two small fins would be there.