Alas I found a picture for this challenge and that too from my favorite air force! π
Hey, the Chinese PS-maniacs started out with crap work just as well. India is simply slowly catching up
This is one area where I would rather not see any competition. Art and fantasy is perfectly ok – folks out there have talent for that they should pursue it – but what i hate is people passing off gas as “unseen sniper photo” and “leaked from mystery base” and like.
Suff gets reproduced and spreads all over the net – I dont want unsuspecting newbies falling for them and getting into arguments over em. Even if the original artist points out that its fantasy in his orginal post, some websites will pick it up and go “Exclusive! Exclusive come and see!” :rolleyes:
these boys should rather make themselves useful and work on some serious stuff like Harry is doing.
YUCK! π‘
I aint got no probs with drawings but with PS’d pix like those you are only get laughed out by others and flames from me
π‘
I think we can see nice place to contruct a long runway in the photos π
[1] was was tuff wasnt it? Also its amazing that there no pix of MiG-25/31 firing anything….
AFAIK, Yak-44 has never flown…
that might be the case – i dont know myself.
flex,
Respect! You got more goodies? I want them!

> 503 su30mkk_7.jpg
-1 for the wrong attempt!
> c1487.jpg
Nice try but that doesnt qualify :p
Himanshu,
> il76iraqui.jpg
Are we sure that its the actual Baghdad-1?
π
I have one Adnan-1 picture and a picture of R-60 live fire from a finnish hawk (!). The rest I dont have nothing…. π
I am especially looking forward to Baghdad-1 and Adnan pictures.
Then Arthur, that isnt the only one of its kind.
The south africans also developed a single proto of a tandem seat alouette II.
Dont remember the name or have any pix – iam sure that you’ll find info in one of those aircraft encyclopedias (that were I read about it).
What happened to that helicopter?
It crashed. Cant tell type without the position of tail rotor or serial. 90% it is Mi-8 judging from the paint scheme. The wreackage is at Bhuj so perhaps a check on the units stationed near by can tell us better.
Egads!
Can U please have links and pictures of the Action-Lama π from Romania?
thx
A picture showing the rectangular self-sealing tank for Cheetahs:

The particular machine is resting today at the HAL Museum in Bangalore.
* Below is an article on the typical difficulties a helicopter pilot has to face in war:
http://vayu-sena.tripod.com/kargil-army_aviation_article.html
On anti-aircraft fire directed at the aircraft:
A minute and they had ducked into a deep, narrow gorge. This was the safest way to N helipad, which sat on the hill where the gorge ended. The chopper was hugging the ground, staying just 5-10 feet above. On both sides, steep snow-capped ridges rose to 4000+ metres – ridges on which, the pilot knew, the enemy had dug in and would be firing at him this very minute. The chopper continued hugging the ground, moving fast, climbing with the gradient. The narrow, makeshift helipad was situated at about 13,000 feet. It had a light coat of snow when the pilot sat his machine down. There was no sign of any casualties. While his colleague held the machine steady, the pilot threw open the door. He was wearing a flying jacket over his overalls, but the cold air cut through it.
A shell burst a little ahead rocking the chopper. The pilot could make out two figures, bulky in their winter clothes, running towards the machine. A junior commissioned officer and a jawan. They were carrying a stretcher. “How many?” the pilot shouted over the din of the rotors. “Two now, more to go,” the JCO shouted back as he lifted the lying casualty into the space behind the pilots. The seat there had been folded up. The man could just about lie there in the tiny space if he kept his legs folded. He had been shot through the neck and, though dosed with morphine, was moaning in agony. No sooner had the second injured been lifted in — he had a gunshot wound in the leg and was categorised as ‘sitting casualty’ – the pilot was back in his seat. “Let’s go!” he yelled.
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The co-pilot had taken over. A pull with his left hand and the chopper was airborne. He executed a 100ΒΊ turn and was down into the gorge. Though the pilot couldn’t hear the automatic fire that was aimed at him inside the cabin, he could see the bullets punching holes on the barren mountainside. His colleague was flying fast, his concentration intense – a slight lapse would send the machine crashing to the ground or into the ridge. Behind them the lying casualty continued to moan. “You are doing fine,” the pilot heard himself yelling. “We will get you out of here soon.” Seven minutes of flying and the chopper touched down where an ambulance was waiting. Willing hands took over the injured, and the pilot was headed towards N helipad again. The second trip was hotter; the third even more so. But today the pilot’s luck held. He brought in five more injured without incident. “Some days when we finish work,” the pilot is saying, “the helicopter is full of blood.”
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But that protection does not always work. However sharp your eyes are, however keen your concentration, there will be times when you miss out for a few seconds. And then, your life is in the hands of Lady Luck. “I was shot at with a rocket. I spotted the man – he was firing from the shoulder – only after he had fired. He must have been about a kilometre away…It was too late for evasive action, but luckily he missed. I could see white smoke under my machine as it passed beneath,” the senior pilot says. The Cheetahs are not armed aircraft, though the pilots carry an Ak-47 each. As such, all they can do is weave and duck when attacked. But being smaller, they are faster and capable of tight and fast turns. “The enemy fire is always at your future position,” explains a pilot, “If you are watching, you get half a second, perhaps a second to react…and that is enough time.” And if you aren’t? Well, a rocket could “reduce your machine to pieces.” A well-placed bullet in the engine or fuel tank “could send you crashing or on fire.”
“If you are out of their rocket range what they do is direct artillery fire at you,” says the senior pilot. “They (the intruders) have laser range-finders. They pinpoint your position and then call for artillery air-bursts (shells with shorter fuse that burst in the air).” The Air Op pilots’ response is typical during such attacks. They move out of the area as fast as possible, and then call for Indian artillery. “Being trained observers we can pinpoint where the fire is coming from,” the pilot says. “And once a couple of Bofors shells land there, there won’t be anyone left to fire! See, this is a cat-and-mouse game. Who gets whom depends on your luck,” he adds.
First of all lets understand that it is very *difficult* to hit anything in the air with bullets and RPGs. It is almost a waste of time trying to shootdown something with rifles such as the Ak-47. It sports an effective of range of around 400 m on the ground, and even if an aircraft is at 1000 ft it is almost on its limit. So unless you can pump in belts from your .50 cal HMG you cant even get a Lama even if it sports an exposed fueltank.
Why do choppers get shot down by RPGs? Thats happens almost always when are in hover or very close to the ground. Like it happened recently in Somalia. The ability of being very close to the ground is a true chopper speciality and thats one of the reasons why we need em. But in flight it will be difficult to hit anything irrespective of aircraft type.
In case of a hit – how much of a chance does fixed-wing crew (without ejection systems) have compared to choppers? Experience tells us that unless it is a cataclysmic explosion, a helicopter has a much lower rate of descent compared to all fixed wing aircraft. I am not completely aware of american ops in vietnam and soviet experience in Afghanistan, but from what I gather people in helicopters can survive even if they shatter their backbones in the process. π
For reference I am including a graphic on RPG (RPG-7 actually) ranges for aircraft.
Nice work Troung, and Srbin has raised some good points too.
I have a jumle of thoughts in my mind but uptill now I have been unable to find a direction from it. I hope to put up a series of posts here today to help me find one.
Anyway the reason I found the Lama as a model interesting because it is the cheapest military helicopter today – else I am looking a more general helicopter-vs-fixed wing debate too.