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Troung,
Could you tell me some examples of real life usage by the operators in the COIN environment? I am especially interested in small airforces like Phillipines. And how were the results?
You can leave out India and Sri Lanka because i will post on it later.
I am keen on this subject so I am watchin out for posts here.
Troung,
Smaller air forces would use them to provide CAS and to act as FACs and bigger air forces could use them for FACs
What advantages do they have over choppers like the Lama and Aloette series? Very low cost would definitely be one.
I wonder which type is more survivable. :rolleyes: I mean to compare the smaller turboprops – not the AC-130s ๐
Respect Harry! Have you done one on the LCA trainer? Cant wait to see the profiles for MiG-21s, MKI, Jaguar et al
Can I please suggest some improvement? I have attached the only LCA-N side profile I have – according to which your drawing’s nose looks a bit too “fatty”.
Also perhaps a clit in the intakes based on PV1 should be a good idea.
Oh BTW, if you thought that no-one would notice the Python IV – then I say you were wrong ๐
Isnt AU-23 the aircraft seen in the opening sequence of Golden Eye? (the plane that jumps of the cliff along with Bond)
killing an aeroplane with machine guns and RPGs – when it is standing still on the ground. Especially cruel if the attacker is travelling in pickup trucks.
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TTP, nice info sir.
Attached: The sukhois have recessed lights that pop out for refueling in the night.
Can the IL-78 be converted to a normal cargo config without much hassle?
Was reading up some stuff on PLAAF H-6s. Some points about tanker ops:
http://china-defense.com/aviation/h6tanker/h6tanker01.html
On hours –
According to some reports PLAAF H-6 pilots (presumably including the crews of the tanker versions) only get 80 flying hours a year.
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That said, 80 hours seems very low. This amount of time would only allow for one three-hour training sortie (which I would expect to be the shortest duration of flight that would allow the crew to meet minimum training requirements) every two weeks. For comparison, in the early 1990s (and it probably hasn’t changed very much since then) KC-135 pilots, copilots, navigators and boom operators (who operate the refueling systems on the KC-135) might expect to fly around 250 hours per year. (2) SAC KC-135 crews were also required to conduct thus-and-so-many takeoffs, landings, instrument approaches, rendezvous, air refuelings, navigation training legs, contacts (physical connection of the refueling boom to the receiver aircraft’s receptacle), and so forth during these sorties.
operational aspects –
Turning to operations, a sample operational sortie would have twelve J-8Ds supported by two HU-6s on three Combat Air Patrol (CAP) orbits (one flight of four aircraft per CAP) at 1200 km. Approaching a precomputed bingo point (around 800 km) the fighters would refuel. This would allow enough go-home gas for recovery in case any of the fighters had problems with the A/R. (For this reason it can be expected that the force would have a few spare fighters along, to replace any that had to turn back.) Approaching the CAP orbit the fighters would top off and the tankers would RTB. More tankers could then be dispatched to maintain the CAP as long as necessary.
A 1500 km sortie could be planned similarly, but with the ratio of tankers to fighters adjusted to one to four. An 1800 km sortie would require a ratio of one to two, and would be pushing it for both the HU-6 and J-8 (if nothing else, 5 ยฝ hours is a long time to sit on an ejection seat!). However, even longer sorties – 2000+ km – are possible using post-strike rendezvous and refueling. These refuelings are routine operations for the USAF and RAF, and have been conducted by other air forces even under combat conditions. For example, the Argentine Air Force used post-strike refuelings regularly during the 1982 Falklands/Malvinas conflict.
Big Tankers vs small –
Does China’s purchase of IL-78s imply that these will supplant the HU-6 tankers? I don’t think so. A recent Australian study pointed out the advantages of small/medium tankers – flexibility and relatively low acquisition and operation costs – and lamented that the RAAF couldn’t afford a mix of these with large “strategic” tankers. The US, the UK, and Russia all employ such a mix, and it appears that this is what China intends as well.
Seems that the FAP flag has changed since 1961.

What do your school history books have to say about this?
Portugal and Filipe,
Could you suggest some english language links on the PortAF (history)?
It would be great if you could provide a list of portugese (or any other) publications (in any language) that have any info on the Goa-Daman-Diu-Andijiv story.
Anyways please continue to tell us *all* you know about the conflict. It is important because their side of the story must also be heard.
There is a thread on ACIG on the subject:
http://www.acig.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1149&sid=beef3aa35ff4b4c616a35e3a674e6107
http://www.royfc.com/ru_acft1.html
First Il-76MD-90 to Be Re-engined at Voronezh Aviation Plant in April 2004
The first Russian air force Il-76MD military transport airplane will be re-engined by the Voronezh Aviation Airplane Building Association (VASO) in April 2004, the general director of the S.V. Ilโyushin Aviation Complex, Viktor Livanov, reported to Interfax-AVN on Thursday.
โAt the present time at VASO, re-engining of two line Russian air force Il-76MD military transport airplanes is underway. The aging D-30KP aircraft engines will be replaced on them with modern PS-90A-76. Work on the first airplane is planned for completion in April of this year. The second aircraft will be ready approximately in July,โ said V. Livanov.
He reported that both Il-76MD airplanes reached the Voronezh aircraft plant in 2002. The engineering cycle for the re-engining of one airplane (replacement of the engines and the carrying out of a series of design improvements) takes 1 year. Approximately 1 more years is required for flight tests.
According to V. Livanov, the re-engining of 10 โ 14 Il-76MD military transport airplanes is provided for by the program for the development of arms for the period to 2010. After re-engining, the airplane will receive the designation Il-76MD-90.
The cost of the re-engining of one Il-76MD airplane into the Il-76MD-90 variant is on the order of 14 million dollars. The price of the four PS-90A engines (12 million dollars), the installation of the four new pylons (1 million dollars) and other work (1 million dollars) is included in this total.
Owing to the installation of the new engines, the maximum payload of the upgraded airplane will be increased by 10 tonnes, and the flight range will grow by 800 kilometers. Moreover, reliability indicators will increase 1.5 โ 2 times, and usage expenses will go down by 1.7 times.
The PS-90A-76 engines have a thrust of 14.5 tonnes. (the D-30KP has 12 tonnes.) He have a 13 โ 17 percent lowered fuel consumption. The PS-90A-76 meets the ICAO requirement introduced from 2006 for noise and emissions.
Source: 08.01.04, Interfax-AVN
Bhutan (Probably to Druk Air)
Druk Air it is. Saw it on Bhutan program on PTV (yeah – Pakistan TV ๐ฎ ) during the SAARC summit.