The 2008 evaluation was done with a “D” not a “C”, a heavier aircraft that carries a bit less fuel.

I love these arguments.
Not one iota of information on the public domain on how these systems would fare against each other… But one and a half pages and we are already on industrial fisheries!
Can we stop the thread? There’s no available information in order to make any meaningful insight. The end.
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Brasil ordered 36 Gripens, the FAB fields around one hundred F-5E and AMX. I have no doubt that they will order more Gripens, but how many? If SAAB enters Tempest, there’s a fine chance that the Brazilians would give a hard good look at the program.
Canada, well what can we say about Canada? The Hornet replacement program sure looks like shambles… I can see HM MOD and BAE talking to the Canadians, long shot, but…
The Middle Eastern chaps have the most pressing need in order for this program to take off, funds… BAE, RR and Leonardo have all the know how needed in order to build some decent hardware, what they don’t have, and what the UK MOD lacks is money.
India, thats a sure bet, more than certain that BAE and the MOD have already talked with the chaps.

Cheers

Saab is out. The end. That was officially stated by these chaps called “Armasuisse”. And the chance of doing the flight test on a later date is dead.
And that is on “Armasuisse” official site, right on the front page. Saab is officially excluded from the Swiss competition.

The interchangeable sensors really isn’t a selling point unless you bought a French aircraft pre Meteor and had the awful selection of previous generation french missiles available to you.

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In what particular way the likes of the Magic, Magic 2 and Super 530F/D were awful by comparison with their contemporary equivalents?
Their combat record seems to be pretty decent, there are quite a number of Mig´s, Sukhoi, Phantom´s, Tigers, Tomcats and even a Viper and TU-22 that ended in the receiving end of a French pre Matra Mica AAM and decent PK´s for AAM´s are a recent thing.

Cheers

Predictions aren’t realities are they?

The program has been stable for several years now (what Ozair wrote right above).

There is zero point in trying to equivocate timelines between to very different programs. If your going to use 1993 JAST precursor for the F-35, then you’d have to go back to MFI program for the Su-57, contract award dates? Those don’t really work either.

That would be correct if somehow the SU-57 ended up being a direct variant of either the Mig1.44 or the Sukhoi S-37, wich he´s not.
While Lockheed Martin C-190 JAST design from 1995 “was” (and ended up being) the F-35, there´s not much in common (if anything) between the MFI program and the SU-57. The MFI program was terminated, and a new program was launched with entirely new specifications, the JAST program on the other hand simply changed its name to “JSF” in 1996.
Right from the bat, from January 1994 onwards The JAST program was meant to replace the classical Hornet, the F-16, the A-10 and the Harrier in the States and the Harrier in the UK, by November 1994, the requirements had solified into a tri service single engined stealth strike fighter with three variants, one of them a STVOL for the Marines and the RN.

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He insults the east I insult the west by bringing up actual reports from sources that are accountably true.

You´ve brought two tabloid news, from two very unreputable sources, reeking both of the worst kind of homophobia and racism…
Thats what you´ve actually brought
And if you want to discuss the % of Muslins versus the Population of a Country or the numbers of Crimes, do it in the “General Forum”, not here.