Blue apple

Yeah totally. Straight through

Siiiighhhhhhhh

That doesnt look like a “F-16″…
Read again what Blue apple wrote and to whom he was answering.

And please, stop once and for all with references to wikipedia, ok?

Cheers

Do you know that there was a Rafale-D project? It was a truly subtle fighter. The Rafale that we see with you, the fighter with high maneuverability and minRCS ~ 3 m2

IAPR Volume 4, page 60

“In the early 1990’s Dassault was describing the AdA versions of the aircraft as the Rafale D to highlight the low radar cross-section and IR signature of the type.”

In the 90´s Dassault chaps (and everybody else) commonly called prototype C0.01 (the one painted in black) has the “D” (Discrete).

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Another “RCS-eye-o-meter” topic?
Unless the chap who opened this … topic… provides RCS charts for the two mentioned aircrafts, could someone just shut this entirely … topic, pretty please?

These endorsements signify the companies’ intention to support the establishment of the two centres, one in Flanders and one in Wallonia

One in Flanders, the other in Wallonia… Talk about “political correctness”! 😀

You described an AJS 37, which was developed in the 90’s. I’m pretty sure that would be like comparing apples and oranges. You may as well compare the R77-equipped MLD prototype versus AJS 37. Both were more or less paper planes.

No, i’ve described the 1979 JAS37, the datalink was present from the get go, and it got “FOC” in 1985, it was capable of doing IFDL between four fighters and land stations. I am using the radar numbers that were present for the European EPAF competition. The first demonstration of a third party shooter from a Viggen using data link and the Sky Flash that i am aware was done circa 1982, regular “lockons” done by third party sensors and “downladed” by datalink, using either land radars or other Viggens through the eighties are described in detail on multiple articles, one of its “victims” being the SR71.
I imagine that the much upgraded interceptor variant of the Viggen that you are thinking, the JAS37 C/D (not the “AJS37”), was operational from 1993 till 2004 in five diferent sqns, the amraam capability was introduced across the fleet in the “D edit 34” upgrade in 1997, 55 airframes being upgraded between the “D” and the “DI” batches (“I” for International).
The “AJS 37” was another upgrade (48 airframes) done on the attack version of the Flygvapnet Viggen, it was the integration of a MIL-STB 1553B databus, an improved RWR system, a new mission planning system and the ability to use the RBS-15F, the DWS 39 and to carry six sidewinders.

it would simpler to simply upgrade those BF-5s to the standard that Thailand recently upgraded its F-5s to, with Elta 2032 radar, Derby BVRAAM and DASH helmets. Will more than suffice for the threats that Botswana faces. And will be cheap to operate so money can be spent on everything else that the BDF lacks.

It would be far from “simple”. You are mixing aircrafts, Thailand operates the F-5E Tiger, Botswana operates a Canadian version of the F-5A Freedom Fighter, two diferent beasts.

But none of those engines were super sonic.

On top of what FBW wrote, De Havilland was test running a supersonic Turbojet with a 27000 lbs thrust, the Gyron, in 1953.

ps – After reading this topic I am starting to see scenes of Monty Pytons “what have the Romans ever done for us” sketch in my head