I dunno what venezuela paid for the MKV (MKK derived), pit would know; but malaysia paid a mere $ 900 million for 18 Su 30mkm (based on the much more advanced MKI), which equals about $ 45+ per bird, and the russians even agreed to put a malaysian astronaut in space for that much. 🙂
Surely the IAF MKI does not cost $ 60 million. The last reports i read put the entire deal for 240 a/c at about $ 8.5 billion (including weapons, spares, support, TOT, and perhaps even upgrades!) beat that. And even if it turns out about $ 60 million including all the extras, its waaay cheaper than the Typhoon. Remember, the saudis are paying upwards of $ 10 billion for 70 typhoons. pricey stuff.
scorpion,
i’d estimate the Su 35 (single seater) with IRBIS etc @ around $ 50 million + support, weapons etc. no more than $ 70 million tops. thats less than 1/2 of the ef 2000. As far as the HUGE fuel load goes, the EF would cost more too if it lugged around that much in tanks. with extra fuel comes extra range and performance. And lets not forget (the very “weaknesses” of the flanker” allow it to outperform the EF2000 in criteria such as payload, range, and a tremendously powerful radar.
regards,
USS.
I dunno what venezuela paid for the MKV (MKK derived), pit would know; but malaysia paid a mere $ 900 million for 18 Su 30mkm (based on the much more advanced MKI), which equals about $ 45+ per bird, and the russians even agreed to put a malaysian astronaut in space for that much. 🙂
Surely the IAF MKI does not cost $ 60 million. The last reports i read put the entire deal for 240 a/c at about $ 8.5 billion (including weapons, spares, support, TOT, and perhaps even upgrades!) beat that. And even if it turns out about $ 60 million including all the extras, its waaay cheaper than the Typhoon. Remember, the saudis are paying upwards of $ 10 billion for 70 typhoons. pricey stuff.
scorpion,
i’d estimate the Su 35 (single seater) with IRBIS etc @ around $ 50 million + support, weapons etc. no more than $ 70 million tops. thats less than 1/2 of the ef 2000. As far as the HUGE fuel load goes, the EF would cost more too if it lugged around that much in tanks. with extra fuel comes extra range and performance. And lets not forget (the very “weaknesses” of the flanker” allow it to outperform the EF2000 in criteria such as payload, range, and a tremendously powerful radar.
regards,
USS.
Old Number´s
Inflation as hit Russia. Venezuela paid $1.600 million for 24 aircraft´s, plus logistical suport, training and armament. That´s almost $67 million per plane. A MKK… The number came directly from the Venezuelan MOD. (it´s in Spanish, but more here: http://www.fav-club.com/articulos/flankeranida/flankervzla.htm)
The 2004/2006 Sukhoi offer to Brazil, the SU-35BR (a SU30 MKI with one hole) was for 24 fighter´s at $50 million per plane plus a logistical contract worth $232 million, for ten year´s. The number´s came from Pedro Resende, the Brasilian correspondent to JANE´s (if you read Portuguese i can send you the link).
The number for the “Unit Cost Production” of the MKI came from report´s of the Indian Congress that are widely available.
The $8.5 Billion that you mention seem´s to be for just the first 100 fighter´s, but i might be wrong on this one.
The Indian´s are furious with a very high cost escalation of every single piece of military equipment suplied by the Russian´s. That goes from Aircraft Carrier´s to fighter´s.
Under the $8.5 billion said to be the single largest export contract for Russia’s Irkutsk Corporation, which also involves technology transfer, Moscow has so far supplied 60 fighters and said it was willing to deliver 40 more at the current cost escalation of 2.55 per cent.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/India_Russia_review_defence_contracts/articleshow/2067515.cms
The Saudis aren´t paying $10 Billion for 72 Typhoon´s. The contract isn´t inked yet. That number as been “thrown” around by the press, it´s just speculation. It MIGHT get to $10 Billion, but I bet that pay´s the “Tiffies” and something like 50 BAE´s Hawk´s and a few new airbases built as a bonus.
Bottom line. If the Russian´s can pull a “fly away” price of 50 million for the SU-35BM, i am going to be very surprised.
Cheer´s 🙂
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