http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-airforce-orders-idUSKCN0HJ0P620140924
How do you reach the conclusion that F-35 is more expensive than the Typhoon/Rafale? Has the Euro/USD exchange rate changed that much since 2014?
Because Eurofighter offered a full 1/3 more airframes of an evolved aircraft for roughly the same amount of money.
Also, the F-35 price for F-35 ordered today will be lower than the price for Korea back in 2014.
Nope, thats dependent on the production date of the aircraft, not the year of contract signing.
I wonder if the F-35 is already cheaper than Typhoon/Rafale?
The answer is a firm “NO” see Korea and Japan. Next decade.
If yes, then don’t expect to see many more Typhoon/Rafale sales outside of the ME. Why pay more for a less capable platform?
I doubt that both Dassault and Eurofighter officials expect a lot of external sales.
Wow who’d think this would be signed before the Indian MMRCA deal!!.
Naughty…
This gives roughly two more years of work to the production line.
Eurofighter confirms:
https://www.eurofighter.com/news-and-events/2016/04/kuwait-signs-contract-for-the-delivery-of-28-eurofighter-typhoons
I may be wrong, but isn’t there also a thrust issue?
from memory, the F414 is around 11t in max thrust, EJ200 about 9 or a bit more and the M88 only recently proposed in a 9t version with enlarged front…
The F414GE-39 is a ten ton maximum thrust engine.
http://www.geaviation.com/engines/docs/military/datasheet-F414-GE-39E.pdf
Eurojet offered severall iterations of the EJ200 to SAAB, KAI and TAI, from the vannila 9 ton engine that equips the Eurofighter to 12+ ton evolved versions.
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Oh, i think the biggest problem that the AT-6 faces in terms of exports its called “Super Tucano” and “Air Tractor”, not State Department Restrictions.
In what way doesn’t it ?
I presume that you are talking about the British bit. Quite simple, the information gathered by the RAF P-8 fleet will be available to NATO Allies, be the US, Portugal or Luxembourg if the British Government decides, but that particular decision is in British hands.
Sounds like it’s the UK paying for the US to be able to extend their surveillance capabilities ?
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In what way a fleet of RAF P-8’s extend the US (vast) surveillance capabilities?
And does that mean that the Indian Navy 312 Sqn is actually an extension of the US Navy?
For the others , who has the capacity to build a fighter on their own? Typhoon partners have at least partial expertise, but none will be able to develop one on its own, if anything, because they won’ t have the cash needed.
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Germany and Great Britain, both have the expertise to build a fighter in house if they chose to do so and both have a roughly identical budget to the French MOD.
Typhoon not so, unless something dramatic happens, although an MLU will be on the cards by then too.
With today´s orders Typhoon production run will end by 2018, if Kuwait signs that will throw the production line to 2020/2021, that would mate seamlessly with a possible RCAF order (not gonna happen).
On that note though, will Rafale still be in production in 2022? Maybe it is planned to be…..?
This does raise the question of what the alternatives actually would be by 2022 if you wanted to buy a Western fighter (given that EU manufacturers are jumping the F35 generation of manned fighter and supplementing what they currently operate with unmanned until the future becomes clearer).
Delivery in 2022? That means that the aircraft must be chosen around 2019. I would risk and say that all of them will be available with the exception of the F-16 and maybe the F/A-18 E/F.
The Rafale has enough orders to keep it through 2024/2025 and its certain that there will be an aditional 45 airframes order by France.
Fighter Uncertainty Already Affecting Canadian Industry
http://aviationweek.com/defense/fighter-uncertainty-already-affecting-canadian-industry
I wonder if economic order quantity funding is funding provided by government with zero interest. That would distort the true cost but I have a feeling it would be reported that the cost of the F-35 had fallen (without saying it was due to government subsidy).
I have this feeling that someday we are going to see the JSF in Canadian colours (that or the SH)…
Has the SLEP been greenlighted then? I was under the impression that its just one of the options being evaluated by the USAF, pending the structural analysis report. (I’d be happy to be corrected though.)
The structural re builds contracts have been pilling in the State DPT site, what was not green lighted yet is the entire electronics and upgrade package.
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Protectionism is keeping products out of a countries domestic market. US blocking export of Gripen has nothing to do with protectionism.
Off course, your rant has nothing to do with the competition that SAAB has been doing with Lockheed and Boeing, and your problem with that particular aircraft has nothing to do with protecting LM´s and Boeing´s exports… Right
If Brazil was responsible for the equipment sourcing choices then a dual message should be sent to both Saab and Brazil by blocking Gripen exports.
GE can go to hell as well by the way they’re not really an american company anymore.
Warn the State Dpt they didnt get your memo.
Take the canopy for example, it’s still made in US I think but just not mentioned, same for other little bits here and there, they are just not shown. The us total parts procentiges are somewhat lower though.
The Gripen canopy is British, GKN Aerospace.
It will be up to Saab to prove that it isn’t case to the US government when they ask for export permission.
Something that they have been doing for decades and have absolutely no problems with it. The US Government doesnt seem to agree with you! What a surprise, eh?
A citizen of the US, the biggest weapons exporter on the planet asking for proteccionism and stoping exports of engines to friendly western Countries… Rich…