Possibly also Suntex Safety Glass, who were in business up to about 10-12 yrs ago, and did a LOT of aircraft perspex.
Bruce
Interesting piece – but it was quite clear that despite the preamble, suggesting that the USAAF buried a lot of surplus stuff, what was recovered was a rubbish tip.
I would be interested to know if they recovered anything other than ‘rubbish’. Clearly, one mans rubbish, is, 65 years on of more than passing interest to enthusiasts, but what else is there to find? Anyone?
Bruce
Broadly, the 190’s are deemed ‘new’ aircraft by the CAA as opposed to restorations. They therefore have to conform to a stringent series of checks which any new aircraft would have to undergo to attain certification.
It would be easier – (though by no means easy!) to put an original 190 through the Permit to fly system.
Care should be taken when criticising the CAA – there is a well laid down procedure which must be followed in order to operate any aircraft in UK skies.
Bruce
I understood that, from the CAA’s point of view, one of the problems with the new build 190’s was that they weren’t exact replicas ie there were structural changes from the original design. Presumerably the CAA regard these changes as unproven hence the extra work involved in getting one registered here.
I also believe that there have been problems with the electrics and hydraulics on the one that appeared at Legends and that it has since been modified to overcome these problems.
In view of the above maybe the CAA were right to err on the side of caution but on the other hand wasn’t ESA meant to standardise certification across the EU and if this is the case it seems odd that the rules for certiifcation of new build 190’s aren’t universal across the whole EU.
There are no hydraulics in a 190 – it is an all electric aeroplane, with the exception of the brakes.
The Flugwerk aircraft are structurally similar to the original, with very different systems.
Bruce
So how come they fly elsewhere with what seems to be such ease?
Simply because they have different rules elsewhere. They apply to all the aircraft we enjoy – including all the Spitfires, Hurricanes and so on.
The 190 was being dismantled when I arrived at DX this morning (in the snow!)
I’ll pop in and see you next week!
Regardless of whether we consider it a problem or not, it is clear that the authorities take the line that it is a problem, and are using their powers to limit the exposure of the public to any such risk.
Right now, that is affecting museums – in the future it will affect open trade of such material, whatever our thoughts on the subject.
For those that wish to bury their heads – fine, but it WILL catch up with you. Be proactive, and do something about it before you are made so to do.
As I understand it, the effects of exposure to radiation are cumulative. It doesnt wear off, and one day those five minutes you spent in a cockpit could prove to be the tipping point. Of course, it doesnt affect us all the same – and that is the problem!
Bruce
The finest piece of aeronautical engineering from the second world war, was, in my considered opinion, the FW190. Streets ahead of anything we were building – though extremely complex!
Bruce
There are specialists in most fields, though at least one has left the stage recently…
For Spitfires, I think HFL are on about number fourteen – which gives them a lot of experience! For Hurricanes, there is no-one else but Hawker Restorations for the job.
I dont know the Mustang market well enough, but Mid West Restorations must be well up there.
However, ‘best’ is very subjective – as has been said, it depends what the customer requires.
Mod note – I’ve shuffled the posts that were posted in the ‘who are they’ thread by accident back into here, so it should make more sense. It might not be coherent however!
Bruce
Did you ever find these? I’m finding a LOT of Breeze plugs at the mo!
Bruce
LOL – perhaps we should open a joint thread offering each others parts for sale!
I think with the greatest of respect chaps, it’s time to bring this to a close….
Night night
Bruce
No, you misunderstand my point – it is not meant to denigrate what has been done at all.
All I am suggesting is that the reason that the stuff was buried is that it was considered ‘rubbish’ at the time, not that you have wasted your time digging up rubbish! The problem with this sort of communication is that it is too easy to take things in a way other than that which was intended.
My point was merely that as the stuff was disposed of – effectively as landfill, that it was considered as unusable, and not worth returning to the states. The lack of complete engines, jeeps etc (so far!) reinforces that. We have yet to see evidence of equipment buried that would have been suitable for further use. We all know the stories; there are a few such round here too!
I am not dismissing what has been achieved in any way – I’d be more than happy to find such stuff, although much of it is now without any context except to say that is/was once part of a WW2 aircraft.
Bruce
I bet mine are cheaper!
Matt, just let me know if you need any – as I said, I am finding a lot of these at them mo!