EDIT: Sorry i.e. I belive I missread your post ther!
My hjumble appologies to you if I did! 🙂

I couldn;t make sense of your first post but… no problem no harm done.

yes I was following up on your intriguing idea that pak may turn to french for some supplies, M88 engine comes in my mind. If rafale doesn’t win MMRCA that is. heck even a M53 would do. provided CAC is willing to re-design the aft fueslage.

as to status of Chinese Engines in this class. yes an engine is in work, ws-13. Taishan, it is a Klimov with some local modifications.

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taxi trials began early last year.

Russia prolly wont play ball with Pak. but the French might. So if they dont want to rely solely on Chinese gear they should try approach them rather than the americans.

hummm….

M88 for JF-17/FC-1? 😉

Sounds good to me.

Also, in terms of planform alignment would an angle to the canards effect anything? Because the radar waves should still be scattered in a controlled fashion in the same direction as the wings? Acting in the same way the F-22’s V tails leading edge is aligned and therefore scatters as the main wing’s leading edge.

Once those Leading edge slats droop your nice planeform alignment is gone, same goes for those Flaperons.

May be, just may be in some of these stealth planes there is a “Stealth Mode” in the FCS.

there is more than one way to balance out the pitching moment you know… and when RCS is your biggest requirement you are not likely to be 1) at low speed and 2) need large surface deflections…isn’t it?

I shouldn;t say anything more, do I…

That’s my speculation also. I wonder if PAF is playing a role in this. There was a rumor for that but Eagle Hanan clarified that the PAF has denied any involvement in 5th gen development in China.

It is only in the proposal stage. the real competition hasn’t started.
some people in CAC is real peeved about losing the carrier fighter proposal to
SAC’s J-15. they don;t want to lose another one.

J-10X (let’s just call that for the lack of a better designation) is substantially different beast than J-10A/B. at least that’s what i heard.

as far as PAF goes, their personnels wouldn’t get a formal briefing at this point but I would imagine they would hang around CAC enough to know what’s CAC has in mind.

Sometime back I had heard a rumor that there was a conventional layout single engine smaller brother for the J-20. I am not sure if this has something to do with the JF-17/ J-10 programs and their eventual future replacements.

J-10’s eventual replacement, the lowend mix.

you sure love your strawman arguments don’t you. No one ever questioned the existence of foreign aircraft wind tunnel models outside of China and Russia so your point is moot to begin with.

if you would have finished reading my post, …

You clearly does not know that 1) Li Tian of 601 is in the photo, and 2) you do not know that 601 does not do foreign technology.

or else you wouldn’t point to the wind tunnel model and say something like it looks like some “foreign adversary” ‘s model at airshows so it might be foreign technology work.

I am just to point out your obvious lack of background information in this area.

off topic and irrelevant. we’re talking about Korea’s likelihood of partnering with a neighboring country for aircraft. PRC more so unlikely than Japan. not vice versa.

Oh,
remind me who brought up the topic of Chinese Hate Koreans?

my deepest respect to a legend!