I must apologize. This is me living in other universe, and Alert5 guys living in right one. Sorry.

compare tunnel interior to that that we’ve definitely seen before in connection to other Chinese projects
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Yeah looks like that old NF-3 lowspeed tunnel in Mianyang in Sichuan Province.

Actually in the last 61 years, the current relationship between China and Russia has been the best ever. G.W. Bush/Dick Cheney should get the credit for that. Something about the U.S. repeated proclamations as the sole superpower in the world makes many people nervous and fearful. The end result is China and Russia is coalescing into a stronger alliance to counter U.S. hegemony.
As far as money is concerned, less than 5% of bilateral trade between Russia and China is military related. And the percentage is still shrinking. Over 95% of bilateral trade between the 2 nations is civilian/commercial related.

Recently Russia invited a Chinese naval delegation to visit the carrier, Kuznetsov.
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2011/05/photo-of-day-pla-navy-commander-admiral.html

yeah, just to de-militarize that loonng border helped to save buckets of $$$ better to spent somewhere else.

in 70s China spent alot of money and effort it doesn’t have trying to defend against a Soviet land invasion scenario that was never realistic, like wise I would assume Soviet/Russians did the same. all that wasted money/resources. all this driven by irrational fear on both side of the border.

I just can not see what good can a frozen relationship btw Russia and China can do. better trade than wars.

Rafale :
Between 115 knots (213 km/h; 132 mph) and 100 knots (190 km/h; 120 mph) in safe mode.
The canards help reduce the speed of the delta wing.

F18 quite a few variants with various weight… I’ve no idea.

margins to your stall determine that speed to.
Here is where a well designed fbw will get you that extra 5 kts.

one of the reasons behind the F-18’s relatively straight wing was to allow for lower speed landings on the carrier.

But what about the Rafale M? its delta wing sweep is pretty deep. what’s its landing speed in comparison?

text book speaking higher alpha for deltas compare to straight wing, given same CL.

so given the same flight path angle and landing speed, the delta one has higher pitch attitude – nose points higher.

assume ofcouse your deltas don’t loose lift or any fancy vortices over the top surface to change it a bit.

Source?

If this is an open source then I wouldn’t be here posting on a web forum wouldn’t it? it would already be documented in ONI’s annual report or something like that.
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you guys know there are at least 2 more coming right? :rolleyes:

They can. Even Iran did that with F-5 to make Saeqeh . As far as I can tell, Saeqeh has new structure, flight controls, and new avionics package. To design a new flight control, they had to have good aero- and structure data. Americans as far as I knew never sold any thing like that to Iranians. They had to stick this thing in Wind tunnels and in CFDs and rework it from pretty much ground up.

To call Iranians cheats, 2 bit IP criminals, petty data thieves and copycats is pretty much western propaganda against the hard work involved in glorious make believe indigenous research, and it betrays some of commentator’s utter lack of experience in aeronautic industry.

Blah Blah Blah. 😀

No offence but you really make it sound as if they borrowed su-33’s to study how naval aircrafts work and came out with a superhornet. :p

Any info over the structural changes or anything that can be seen by comparing photographs ?
Any new composites to lighten the airframe up ?
Any change in internal fuel volume or any observable bump to confirm so ?
Is it driven by AL-31 or WS-10A ?
Any difference in flight envelope or anything which might suggest a major reworking of FCS ?
Does it feature a homegrown IRST and radar or plans to use an imported one till the domestic version is ready ?

PS : Is there even a snowballs chance in hell that Sukhoi can file a case in a Chinese court over IP infringement and win it ? (I am not asking whether they will, but what if they do ?) because anyhow china would be self sufficient in the next 5 years so it won’t matter to Russian firms if they can milk some money out of the J-flankers.

Well, No,
My point is that even if you give somebody a su-33, (or superhornet for that matter) it doesn’t mean they can make a copy. you can copy it metal by metal part and the whole thing still comes out falling apart.
This is the nature of this business.