resort to trolling eh? Kapedani?

May be they plan to use ceramic or ceramic composite based blades for compressor thereby circumventing any need for s-ducts. The japanese have companies that are highly advanced in ceramics that have developed high toughness industrial ceramic products

Ceramic Compressor blades?
you mean carbon fiber composite fan blades for the LP section?

and now something about “minor islands”. What I said, was that if the Chinese “plan” (a public PR plan, meaning its rubbish from the get-go) is some vague assault on Penghu islands, than this IS a limited attack.

Right, so their plan involves a limited small-scale assault on a couple of isolated islands.

Sounds like the kind of limited strike I was talking about 😉 Of course, I doubt the PLAN has the capability to even pull this off, if the USN is involved.

To say that Penghu is “isolated islands” while it is only 50 km in middle of taiwan straight and is essentially the strategic gate way to taiwan.
betrays atleast your lack of kownledge of geography.

btw when I meant Penghu it will be the whole thing. the archipelago is not a spread out over hundreds of sq miles of ocean. it is tightly clustered. you should know that before you said: “

Penghu is an island cluster…many of which are uninhabited or undefensable. Which islands are they talking about…to begin with? “

and as for:

Such a plan, if it has any merit (which I don’t doubt it doesn’t), is a tacit admission that both the intentions, and the capabilities, of the Chinese…are limited and don’t include any such scenario where a B-1R would be needed.
and I am telling you an assault on Penghu historically has always been the opening phase of a full scale invasion of taiwan from mainland.

I am certain you will manage to twist this around into some alternate meaning, as well.

trolling.

117S was never on PAK-FA- it was izdelye 117.

sorry, suppose to be 117.

Unfortunately it’s the same original prototype for the KJ-2000, I think.
The original prototype number was 762 as well, and they just repainted this one.

my bad.
extensive modes though.

But…. This is a picture of a miniaturized KJ-2000 AESA radar on the Y-8 test platform T0518 (before used for the ZDK-03 radar), of which will be used on the Y-7 naval awacs.

And before anyone calls it a PS, keep in mind we’ll need a picture of that before it was PSed (which hasn’t turned up), and all previous news suggested a mini KJ-2000 aesa woudl be used for the Y-7 awacs, and also that this is from huitong, who usually won’t get conned by such. that’s all. 🙂

generally speaking some moded Y-7 platform for carrier awacs is a bad idea.

basic Y-7 is too big and under powered. redesigned the wing, take out two plugs in fluseage… by the time they are done they would be better off designing a new aircraft… which is what I bet they essentially will do.

I wonder how this B-1 interceptor could be justified. I would imagine it would be necessary to scramble one from a base, otherwise fuel costs alone would be a huge penalty. And you would need several stationed throughout Taiwan, or they may never get an opportunity to fire off its missiles. That means rotating crews and keeping a crew in every one on alert status that’s a lot of seats to keep full.

I heard through 2nd hand rumor that fighter scrambling on eastern side of Taiwan (behind the central mountain) would climbes eastward to gain altitude before heading back west. basing something this big on taiwan obviously wouldn’t help. the other guy would see it the moment they drag it out of the hangar if not earlier.

Talking about 1993 and co-operatoon with Mikoyan they are basically speaking about the MIG MFI, which was a tech demonstrator.

and how do you know they are not talking afterwards?
because some book writing air cmdre says so?

see my reply in blue

The issue is, there can be different types and levels of US involvement. The US can be involved in providing a shield to Taiwan, it can be used to provide an active defense to Taiwan…OR…it can be used to counter-attack China directly.

All this depends on the level the Chinese want to commit. If they commit with ballistic missiles, or if any US bases are attacked…the gloves are likely to be off and the US will no longer be a defensive player. None of this has to do with “civilian targets” or “pearl harbor”.

Is shooting at airplanes that is shooting at you consider defensive or offensive? or what about shooting at ships that is shooting down your missiles? or waht about shooting down tankers that is providing fuel for those airplanes? or what about hit those tankers on the ground that is providing fuel for those airplanes? or what about hiting those bombers on the ground that is missioned to targeting your ground forces in china? where do you draw the line in defense or offensive? I think it is rather interesting that while SSGN based pre-emptive strike is talked about as an option to finish off J20s off on the ground in a potential conflict, while here you try your best to distinguish offensive/defensive behavior of Chinese as some sort of excuse to escalate.
If you think a potential bomber offensive against chinese targets on ML is a deterrent for limiting chinese options, then I think your estimation is off. this is already factored in their calculation.

Chinese cruise missiles are in their infancy, especially land attack missiles. And they don’t fly at 20 feet during their entire flight path. And flying over water, thats exactly what USN ships and AWACS platforms are designed to detect and intercept.

Yep, you were in the caves. you think they still flys old converted silkworms with analogue electronics? don’t ya? :rolleyes:

Thats obviously not what I meant, or related to what I was addressing. What I was addressing was the question raised, that why would Chinese air power not be sufficient to achieve aerial superiority over Taiwan? Wouldn’t the Chinese government know this?

Because Chinese airpower is not the primary tool to achieve aerial superiority over Taiwan. :rolleyes:

Yes they would…for the same reason their naval capacity isn’t sufficient either.

Which is why talk is cheap…Their intentions are not to invade or establish aerial superiority over Taiwan, or even conduct anything more than isolated strikes in case things go really bad politically. Thats the realistic limit of what they can do.

Their ’96 plan calls for a full amphibuious assault on Penghu.

now you can argue their capability is not enough to do it back then in face of full american involvement. But I think your estimate of their current capability to “conduct anything more than isolated strikes” is rather off the mark.