To tell the truth, I would probably reject both the SR-71 and TSR. 2. Although brilliant a/c (the TSR.2 in particular!), the impact they’ve had on the world has been very limited. I suppose there would be a case for them on technological grounds but, in cultural terms, probably not. I would prefer to see the Harrier (the original design, not the Harrier II) or the 747 as examples of 1960s technology. That’s largely why I would also rule out Concorde: again, an absolutely smashing machine but not one that has had an impact globally…
Kev,
Looking back on it, this thread is pretty pointless. It’s just another “most significant a/c” thread that doesn’t really go anywhere. Perhaps the moderators should lock it, since it can’t really lead to anything good (only types like me endlessly raking muck when there are far more interesting things on this forum) or any interesting discussion. It was just an idle fancy on a Wednesday afternoon!
Re: the Lanc, the “worldwide” was not so much a reference to the airframes but the crews. I suppose I should have put down “a world war one airframe” instead of a Camel. In hindsight, I suppose a Wright Flyer would be a better choice (stupid me!) for early aircraft.
I did think about 707/Comet: it was a toss-up and in the end I went for the Comet, since it was first, rather than the 707 (which I suppose was more significant in commercial and cultural terms than the Comet). I did mean the Gloster E28/39 by use of “Whittle”: I was just too lazy to look up the rightful
specification!
I wouldn’t add Concorde: a technological marvel, yes, a fabulous aircraft, yes, but has it really changed the course of world history? If it was the first of many production designs then I suppose it would be worthy of inclusion but it isn’t (sadly)…
Wasn’t the last dogfight of WW2 fought between a Storch and a Grasshopper?
Yes, the only a/c shot down by pistol fire in WWII was that Storch.
Not a confirmation as such, but surely any combat between UN forces and Po-2s in Korea must rank amongst the strangest encounters of that war?
Ooh:
Short Seaford NJ203 (remilitarised, please!)
Bristol Brigand
and, my favourite, Attacker WA473. Wouldn’t it be great to have an Attacker and a Sea Hawk side by side?
I was just wondering in response to your post, Mark, whether you had considered doing A73-2, which was a navigational trainer. No nose turret (so that’s sorted out!), it was assembled from British B.2 components (so no real accuracy issues) and was an unusual aircraft.
Or, you could do “Aries II” or “Aries III”, both British “Lincolnians” with Lancastrian nose sections.
What would be good would be either a B. 2 in the as built “Tiger Force” scheme or an RAAF machine of 1 Squadron with two-hundred-odd operations markings….
Incidentally, there was a brand new Mossie hidden in one of the hangars.
Bri:(
Do you know what happened to it?
Out of interest, does the project intend to paint RF342 in an RAAF scheme? Being a bit odd I would suggest finishing it as “Atlas”, the Lincoln I that was sent to Australia as a pattern aircraft, although, admittedly, that is certainly a long way off!
I wish you every success with the project. The Lincoln is one of my favourite aircraft (if not one of the world’s greatest aircraft).
With out my Putnams handy…
I’m fairly sure the Viscount resulted from the committee.
Was the H-P Herald (or was that response to the F.27)?Princess Flying Boat?
The H.P.R. 3/7 Herald was an outgrowth of the Miles Marathon (in its original incarnation). The Marathon was a result of the Brabazon committee’s type 5a requirement.
Thank you both for that. Markpa, do you know when these skirimishes took place? 1946? 1948?
It’s settled the question in my mind, and is very decent of you both.
That Train is only to Ashford Canterbury Dover and Ramsgate;)
James
Well, Ashford is pretty close. It shouldn’t be too hard (I suppose!) to build a station at Lydd – the original passenger building is still there. All you would need to do would be to build a halt, perhaps, and serve it with a shuttle from Ashford station via Appledore. That way, passengers from Eastbourne, Hastings and Brighton could access Lydd with only one change of train, as could passengers from London, Tonbridge, Canterbury and Dover…
You can tell I’m a Kentish railway fan! 😉
Should be a great one for authentic schemes, though – RAF, Italian Air Force, Israeli Air Force and Burmese Air Force markings. Not to mention service in (at least) two wars…
Thank gawd such a hideous baby was stillborn!
Oh I dunno, it looks nice in its own way…
I’m glad they stuck to single-seat Attackers, though!
682al
cig1705
In order to give the enthusiast as much detail as possible we are currently attempting to fund computer video displays that will start with a presentation of the “easy” information for the layman and then delve into the specific restoration and history of each aircraft for the enthusiast.
This seems to be the best compromise on getting maximum information availabile while not overwhelming the aircraft with massive story boards.
What do you think of our idea?
Thanks for the input.
Tom H
That’s a great idea – if you can do it for all the aircraft, it will certainly work well. Just ensure (if you can) that the display screens are nice and inviting – lots of pictures (maybe some “cool facts” for less aviation-inclined visitors) and the like. Should be good!
Lots of stories about people (local air aces, people important to Albertan civil aviation, etc.) help attract the masses. However, make sure these displays are accessible, not overwhelming. Don’t stack displays with personal artefacts and bits of aeroplanes up to the ceiling – people won’t read them, and certainly won’t get a good impression of you trying to cram as much in. Almost contradictory to this statement, however, is the suggestion that you need to have lots of things to do, things to see, things to touch, etc. It is hard getting the balance between enthusiast and general public right but it is something you should endeavour to do…
Keep your displays modern. Some museums I go to (admittedly staffed and maintained on a volunteer basis) have displays proclaiming “This exhibit is due to be fully restored by 1990” – and I’m not joking! Not only will this turn off Joe Public, who will think that everything is old and boring, but your average enthusiast will think that you obviously don’t care about your exhibits enough to maintain them properly.
One of my pet hates is a lack of airframe information next to exhibits. When I see yet another Lightning or Hunter and all that the display panel tells me is that the Hunter is a very important 1950s fighter, I despair. I want to know more about this Hunter, what it did, where it went. Who knows, it may even surprise me! If you want to avoid making all the information about the aircraft directed at the enthusiast, then go ahead, tell your average public about the importance of aeroplane XYZ and what it is, but provide information for those who want more…
Not strictly true actually – I always thought it was as well during my ‘active’ days at the museum, however EE527 still survives in Argentina as C-027 on display in Villa Reynolds. Still it can’t be more than a few days between their ‘birthdays’ 🙂
But did EE527 serve with the RAF in any capacity? Or was it simply delivered to a maintenance unit and then transferred to Argentina?