ffs, you guys just got trolled by a hotdog, a piece of processed meat 😡

for example?

say if I want to design and produce my own line of smart phones, it doesn’t need
high-end Intel and AMD chips. What are the major components? 1. A low-power
chip possibly ARM or MIPS architecture, 2. a power efficient LCD screen, 3. flash
memory, ….

Why should I set up the manufacturing myself when theres thousands of OEMs in
China that can put it together for me? I just design the software interface and the
hardware specs, and let them do the rest.

http://www.alibaba.com/

you can search for anything there, just play a game, think of all the components you
need to build a car, and find a manufacturer in the search function.

Attn: J-20 Hotdog, TR1

The title of this thread should be changed. It is quite interesting from a broader
perspective.

I am surprised why this SU-27 –> J-11 issue did not result in a massive diplomatic
spat between Russia and China, angry articles by Russian defence commentators
and fans aside. If, as it appears, China has been underhanded in its dealings, Russia
must have lost at least $5 billion to $10 billion in Flanker sales already. Yet,

1) Russia continues to faithfully supply engines to China, such as D-30, AL-31, and
RD-93 which has kept Chinese aircraft manufacturing alive and growing for the past
decade.

2) Russia still sells weapons to China such as that Ka-31 radar picket for the still to
be formed carrier battle group.

3) Continued cooperation in SCO, yearly military exercises.

4) Did Putin et al ever come out publically to condemn China?

etc. etc.

It does not make sense why Russia would be doing all this if China slapped it in the
face so blatantly. Could there have been some sort of deal in the 1990s that permitted
China to do this? I understand that Shenyang didn’t go through its entire consignment of
licenced SU-27 production – preferring to go it alone.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjY0NDg4NDc2.html

Can we tell something about its thrust to weight ratio judging from the fact that
it started moving at around the 7 second mark, and then lifted off at the
24 second mark?

That is 17 seconds to lift off.

I don’t have sound on this computer so I cannot tell whether the afterburners
were used.

I would be very surprised if the HTMS Pattani was designed by a Thai shipyard, it’s much bigger than anything they have designed before – it looks like a downsized F-22P that was exported to Pakistan.

meanwhile in Bahrain :diablo:

Except its utter nonsense.

No one has ever complaint about Chinese after sales support, so where does this ‘perception’ come from?

Facts and not baseless old wives tails dreamed up by internet randoms is what counts.

Yea, but politicians and the military that handle these acquisitions are just as susceptible to old wives tales, preconceptions, and so on. Didn’t ananda mention that the Indonesian navy dismissed Chinese submarines outright probably due to the above.

Hi Ananda

I am interested in knowing what were some of the problems with the FTC-2000?

On paper it is a late MIG21 derivative, with relatively powerful turbojet engines capable
of cruising at supersonic speeds, relatively up to date cockpit, and can accommodate a
decent radar.

:confused: