Welcome to the forum Albanlow.
I am sorry to have to say that Melvyn died a few years ago, having stoically endured cancer for a number of years.
He was a great enthusiast for historic aviation and rebuild his own vintage Rearwin G-ELVE, but his interests were numerous, including writing books on how to make your own guitar !
He would no doubt have been interested in your further information, and hopefully other family members may stumble on this thread in the future . Perhaps there is some means by which they could make contact with you as I don’t think the private messaging on this forum any longer functions.
Desperately sad news to receive this morning. He illness was known about, but in the absence of other information, one simply hoped for the best. Richard sounded in good spirits commentating at the Sywell summer show, which was very encouraging.
More than just a pilot, though he was that too, he was an entrepreneur, an engineer, an ambassador for historic flying, and should have had years ahead of him, as one of the leading figures keeping alive the spirit of operating and displaying legendary historic aircraft.
Like Mark Hanna, he had been brought up almost with avgas in his blood, where your destiny is to get to know the family Spitfire, and use it as a spring board to carve out a leading role in the high octane world of warbirds and their restoration. Like Mark, he was one a the people we could ill-afford to lose, both taken from us in their fortieth year. RIP Richard.
I supposed that in the interests of speed, they possibly dropped in a ready-to-go Merlin with a new propeller assembly only because it would seem the fastest way back to airworthiness. Only speculation though, based on no actual knowledge.
I was there at Christmas, and there still were relics out in the woods, including the hulks of some armoured vehicles, and what I think was maybe a sniper’s one man turret, which I felt obliged to investigate.
I think there are two issues, one being engine reliability and the second is suitable terrain. and the two do overlap.
The Shuttleworth Collection is far and away the largest and most long term operator of old, and especially rotary engines in the UK, in the Camel, Pup, Avro 504, Bleriot, Sopwith Triplane, and other lodgers, like the Bristol Scout.
Overall, they are fairly reliable performers, and one often sees maybe three flying together, so it is not a rarity, or a fluke. Over the years, they have occasionally faltered or failed in flight, and been dropped into the wide open Bedfordshire fields, usually with minimal damage. It helps that the Trust owns the estate, and can keep the landscape undeveloped.
Cole Palen was to a degree inspired by Old Warden, when he established Old Rhinebeck in the 1960s, though he took the operation down a more air display/ flying circus route, with great success, and there was a troubled period after his death with infighting and struggles. Engineering standards have been in the spotlight, such as the Avro 504 crash ( in the trees) which had a missing keeper and cotter pin, and NTSB was critical in their investigation. It is a fact that the operation has lost a fair number of aeroplanes, two in the last two months ,and usually ending up very broken in the trees. Shuttleworth too of course has had many incidents in six decades, but usually damage has been slight, and sometimes no damage at all.
Rotary engines are not dangerous per se, but they are ‘tricky’ and not altogether reliable. They DO need proper and constant upkeep, and it is surely self evident that to take them into the air, requires a ‘Plan B’ in the event of a forced landing, which ideally does not involve a densely wooded landscape. The only solution I can think of is just hop them within the airfield boundary, or clear a number of glades, to accommodate a forced landing. Whether land ownership or funding could make that a possibility, I do not know.
Slight thread drift, but here is the B-52 landing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSIGd6COFb8
A firm arrival ( well, you would not want to float! ) but not too startling really, the wings hardly even bowed.
Looks rather like Northolt, which could make sense as it was used for civilian operations (Vikings, Dakotas etc) while Heathrow was being built, and would also receive regular military traffic such as B-17s operated by Sweden, Denmark, Portugal and USAF.
It might be worth joining the fb group Hawker Hurricane Aircraft and Cockpit Projects, if you are not already a member.
”Around the world museums and individuals are working on Hawker Hurricane aircraft, cockpit sections and instrument panels and parts. This group is for any person or group that is currently working on, or has completed a project. Any person who has an interest in the subject are also welcome”.
The group is also a resource for restorers to share information buy, sell and exchange new and used Hurricane parts.
It is a fascinating group, exhibiting a great level of knowledge and expertise, and some of the projects are hugely impressive, but as it is a private group, I will refrain from posting images, apart from their header photo.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2789379288030723?locale=en_GB
There is a bit of a news embargo from Old Rhinebeck, and the event details are unclear, though ASN reports it as
”An experimental Fokker D.VIII replica, amateur built by Brian T. Coughlin, crashed into a wooded area and burst into flames at the south end of the runway at Old Rhinebeck Airport (NY94), Red Hook, New York.
The sole pilot perished and the aircraft was destroyed.” There are suggestions the engine was on fire in flight, but there does not seem to be evidence of that at present in the public domain.
Certainly the heavily wooded terrain is unforgiving of forced landing, as seen a few weeks ago with the Jungmann.
Ohh, bit of a heart-stopping title there , just catching ‘Duxford’ and ‘tragic accident’………
On a happier note, with the final displays at Duxford and Old Warden this last weekend, the 2024 season ends, and we have enjoyed a nine year run ( Since Shoreham 2015) with NO fatalities at UK displays, which is an excellent record, and a real turnaround from the earlier decades, when two or three deaths per season was the norm.
There were some close call over those years, such as the Stearman ditching at Poole and the Turbulent in the Sea at Eastbourne but luckily rescue was right at hand.
We have to remember Mark Long of the RAF Memorial Flight who was lost in a Spitfire at Conningsby this year, not at a display, but getting airborne for the purpose of attending a display elsewhere.
I have to agree. I have lost count of the number of aeroplanes which have ended up in the trees, it seems a challenging choice of terrain when operating 100 year old aircraft ( or replicas) with rather idiosyncratic engines.
Only a month ago a Jungmann went down in the trees after a collision, there was a Bristol Scout many years ago ( now in Yeovilton) and the Avro 504, see video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMwNRSWhsWk
The loss of the Brian Coughlin, of Cazenovia eclipses concerns over aircraft, and he has been a key figure in the success of the flying museum, having been a longtime Aerodrome volunteer and board member, according to a Facebook post by the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome . He has been involved with the organization “most of his adult life, in many capacities,” according to its website, including flying in the aerodrome’s air shows, supervising its infrastructure plan, restoring and building aircraft including several Fokker Triplane replicas and the Fokker D.VIII replica.
Not a problem. Interesting conversations often ramble off in unexpected directions !
Oh no, that is shocking to read.
So the facebook page which I referenced above was the right one, but untouched for seven years…
R I P Kieron.
It would be surprising if Kieron were to drop in and see this request, as he is not a regular contributor.
You could try a private message on Facebook, which has just one Kieron Twite ( age looks about right)
Or leave a message with the Varsity Commemorative group, and I am fairly sure Kieron or Michaela will get it.
The Swordfish would be returning to Yeovilton after its weekend at Duxford. Great to see it , as always.