Pleas don’t use wiki as your only source claiming that the APG-79 has APG-77/81 levels of LPI. If that were true, Boeing would be screaming it from the rooftops during the Indian & Brazilian competitions.

OK, here are some others:

http://www.vectorsite.net/avhorn_2.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40385576/Detection-and-Jamming-Low-Probability-of-Intercept-Radar

The latter is the better read.

Also, my statement was that the APG-79 was “generally regarded” to be a LPI design; no comparisons either favorable or unfavorable with APG-77/81 were made.

There is no way you get a cheaper plane or a plane in service within 2 decades if you start over now with the airframe… you guys are soo pessimistic its not even funny.

You’re way to generous. I get a good laugh out of these F-35 threads some days.

“LM don’t know what they are doing…..the US DoD don’t know what they are doing either….in fact, it’s a conspiracy to fool everyone…..other nation’s militaries in the F-35 program certainly don’t know what they are doing….they’re part of the conspiracy too now…now the press don’t know what they are doing either…. look, the GAO is being drawn into the conspiracy as well…How can this be, when everyone knows that an F-35 will be outclassed in combat by an unarmed Eurofighter piloted by a four year old? ..”

I like the approach that was taken with NUSHIP Sirius. When at some point Success is decommissioned, is that the likely route to be taken for acquisition of a replacement Auxiliary Oiler (AOR) or might we see something like the Dutch Joint Support Ship (JSS) or …

Given the fairly short life (publicly) envisaged for Sirius, it may mean that the RAN’s longer term ambitions are centred around a different type of ship, requiring a different acquisition approach.

Would the RANs future needs not be better fulfilled by looking to acquire 3 new AOR type ships in 5-10 years time so as to standardise and expand capabilities while achieving economies in training spares etc…. what is being suggested is to operate 2-3 different ships of different classes which doesnt make much sense to me…. but i can see a requirement in the future for more AOR especially in the power projection role in combination with a LHD and AWD.

But not that there would be sense in purchasing the ft george.

It wil be interesting to see how the RAN progresses in this regard. With the AWD and LHD projects underway, is the RAN currently at the limit in terms how many new ship build and introduce to service programs it can handle concurrently? 5-10 years sounds like a realistic timeframe.

That’s a lot more solid stores than either Sirius or Success can carry, plus an interesting helicopter support capability.

True, but does the RAN need it? I suspect with Sirius being a relatively recent acquisition, it probably is “right sized” for contemporary requirements. So is that extra capacity worth taking on a 20 year old ship and diverting $ from projects like the ANZAC class upgrade?

The RAN can call its ships whatever it (or the Australian government) chooses. That doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to snub a community that would like to adopt one its ships. That’s never, ever, true, & if an admiral said it, the resultant fuss would probably guarantee that the ship would keep its name.

Jervis Bay does not have a long tradition in the RAN. Two ex-civilian transports which spent more time in civilian than RAN service, both returned to civilian service, one never even owned by the RAN, & all within a 24 year period which ended a decade ago this month. A blip in the history of the service.

But it is after all a suburb of Adelaide. The good folk of Erindale, Peterhead, Osborne, etc, etc don’t seem to mind the lack of ships named after their small part of Australia’s fifth largest city.

Perhaps 24 years is a more significant slice of Australian and RAN history than it would be some nations.

China ‘owns’ America, and by default pretty much owns Australia!:diablo:

I guess China “owns” a fair slice of the UK as well…

http://ecbiz97.inmotionhosting.com/~erudit8/article.php?id=848

Oh and I know all about federation, regardless mate- Australia is still a colony of England.

I think I just felt the entire population of Australia shudder in disbelief….