The queen of the United Kingdom is separately queen of Australia. She’s as much your queen as ours.
Except that “Queen of Australia” is a vastly different role to “Queen of the United Kingdom”.
Aren’t NH90 and Tigers manufactured in Australia anyway?
Only assembled is Aus.
So does Australia’s Defence Minister…
Largs Bay acquisitionThe UK has been saying for quite a while now (at a military level) that it wants to get closer ties to Australia again. Is this the first step?
With the UK seemingly walking away from any aspirations it may once have had to maintain a globally relevant military, I’m not sure what “closer ties” would mean at a practical level.
Teaching History and Science is the only way make religion a thing of the past, and the world a better place 🙂
And Nazism, Stalinism and unchecked capitalism were making the world a better place?
Teaching History and Science is the only way make religion a thing of the past, and the world a better place 🙂
And Nazism, Stalinism and unchecked capitalism were making the world a better place?
The problem isn’t with buying European, it’s with buying platforms that’re still in development and tagging near every program with ‘minor adjustments for Australian requirements’. :rolleyes:
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The SH-2G(A)Super Seasprites woes caused by “minor adjustments”? It was more of a Nimrod MRA4 style fiasco.
I didn’t know that the Kaman Super Seasprites which the Australian Navy tried and failed to put into service were made in France…:rolleyes:
No they were not. But they weren’t “Coalition partner equipment” either 😀
8-12 / RAAF – they might buy the P-8 but they might be interested in the A319 – they bought airbus refuelers, so lets see.
I’d rate an RAAF P-8 buy as more probable. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-8_Poseidon
It would be very unwise for the Brits to dump the F-35 and go for the F-18. Why wud they need an a/c that is inferior to the a/c it is replacing? (i mean old F-18) …
It’s difficult to reconcile that statement with those coming out of the RAAF.
For example: http://www.defence.gov.au/news/raafnews/editions/4904/features/feature02.htm
Batman,
Australians, like the Canadians, have a lot of airspace to cover. Therefore they need long range interceptors to secure their borders. Rather than seek this out they’ve settled on high performance fighters with short legs. They could have operated such interceptor aircraft made by either of their closest allies, the UK and the US. I wonder why they did not. Maybe it’s because, unlike Canada, they aren’t directly aligned against a nuclear power. Or maybe it’s because they themselves don’t feel they are targeted by missiles from nuclear powers because they themselves do not proliferate such weapons.
Not directly aligned against a nuclear power? Have you heard of ANZUS, Pine Gap, North West Cape or Nurrungar for example? And what about superpower involvement in the Korean and Vietnam wars?
As a result of geography Australia was never threatened by Soviet bombers, and what good is a purpose built interceptor against an ICBM?
The Mirage III probably gave the RAAF 90% of the interceptor capabilities of the F-106, but without the added cost and complexity of the MA-1 fire control system, that was after all of limited use in the Australian context (Australia had no equivalent to the US’s SAGE network). The III also added a ground attack capability, which was critical given the spectrum of conflicts Australia faced in the region.
The need for a multirole platform probably later drove the selection of the F-18 later on. As a small air force already operating fighter and long range strike platforms, I suspect the RAAF would not have been keen to fracture their resources further by adding specialist interceptor aircraft.
probably because Canada has to deal with Big Burly Russian Bombers prodding its airspace now and then.
Australia’s neighbors are happy Indonesians and big bad Kiwis.. yeah.
it need something that can prod the bears back home!
Not quite sure what your is point here. Many would argue that Australia’s strategic environment is far more complex and uncertain than Canada’s.
Indonesia – 120m people and still a long, long way from being a stable democratic country. Remember East Timor?
The rise of China as a military power and the inevitable power struggles that will ensue. How many nations currently claim the resource rich South China Sea, not to mention ongoing tensions across the Taiwan Strait?
The implications of North Korea for Australia’s key trading parters?
And of course those pesky Kiwis 😉
Yes but how many long term overseas engagements is the ADF involved in? :rolleyes:
But how large is the RAF’s area of responsibility? 😮
Just goes to prove that without differentiation of new seeker ASRAAM frame is not the perfectly fine WVR Missile. Now that every WVR Missile has new-gen seeker, ASRAAM seems more obselete than it ever was.It is no surprise that Australians also concluded(like US before) that with new seeker, AIM-9X is better than newly developed ASRAAM.
It was presented more along the lines of keeping the whole F-18F + weapons package purchase an “off the USN shelf” exercise, which makes sense for a small buy of only 24 aircraft. Also, there are no announced plans to use AIM-9X on the upgraded F/A-18 A/B+. Still, the RAAF will be one of a comparatively few airforces fielding two contemporary WVR missiles.
Thats right, except for the crown colony:rolleyes:
You don’t have much understanding of UK-Australian politics do you? Interestingly enough, the RAAF has stayed with AIM-9X for the F-18F
I don’t think the EF community rate the F/A-18E/F as to much of an A-A threat, especially when the EF gets a fully integrated HMD!
Then Metoer comes too.
and by then SH Block II and III(?) and AIM-120 will also be well into their next upgrade spiral……