Hmm… Is there anything but small nations in NATO apart from US?
isnt there a small sovereign continent in NATO?
Yes, you are right, and JAS-39E will offer many advantageous over F-16V – Meteor, IRST, AESA with repositioner, smaller RCS and IR signature, supercruise …
TIDLS
Wingloading
All those are gripens strongpoints even against F-35, exept RCS.
More images and technical information on the future of European rotorcraft:
http://theaviationist.com/2013/03/21/project-zero-images/#.UUwwTjfmDKc
Yuuuuummy!
all the way from home to work! i Love it! (but it should be manned and for transport)
i was kidding sign 🙂
i understand that my friend 🙂 no shame on you or Low for that matter.
I would love to hear more jokes 😉
The Ikea jokes started in international press and lobby groups to gain there cause, and in that perspective it isnt funny. But if good guys in a Aviation forum joking around its funny 😀
Thats why i mentioned it.
I thought Ikea jokes were for Ueli Maurer only ? :p
no, IKEA jokes is made on swedish innovation and industry. Often to make it look simplistic, and a bad idea.
Due to people in common can only pinpoint one big swedish corporation and there innovation.
I have seen it alot in the international arena.
So, are you making the case against having Aircraft Carriers?
Sccoter, are you that stupid. or are you making this up?
this is the F-35 thread, think again.
There is a 3rd way, making it a light fighter, and if and when heavy munition is called for -as in stationary target,
then divide the workload into one spotter (if needed) and another with stand off munition (CM)
or maybe a UCAV and a backseatdriver in a 4,5 gen fighter?
For an A2A fighter you aren’t limited to a big bay that takes up enormous room in the fuselage. You can run much smaller bays along the sides of the fuselage like Typhoon conformal carriage, but enclosed. Another option would be to have CWB-style bays but internal to airframe, sized to house 2-3 missiles each. Many things are possible with only AAM-sized munitions to consider.
first you need long/medium range missiles without fins or extremely small ones otherwise the volume of the storage cant be decreased. Also to be robust for supersonic release, the size/sturdiness of mechanics and doors still takes big volume.
IF you look at the Silent eagle, this isnt a small volume. if put on a small AC.
it takes fronal area like a F-15 intake on each side. Hang those on a gripen :). And imagine the engine and the extra fuel storage needed to compensate for that.
they know it as well, but, as they try to sell it, as any vendor, they claim it’s the best thing out there since the sliced bread.. it’s called “publicity” 😉
Remember how Mc Donnel claimed that cannon is a thing of the past and made the F-4 without it, as everything was going to be done with missiles…
and guess what? once in real combat, they had to manage in a hurry to squeeze a canon inside it after all… but hey, if someone had said “it still is useful to have one” you’d probably have answered: “I guess you know better than Mc Donnel…”
as for the CUDA:
I still have to see a single element of proof that the pentagon showed any interest in it… until then, all I’ve seen is LM’s claims that it will be grat… like here (most recent stuff):
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/details-emerge-about-lockheeds-cuda-missile-382670/
they even go as far as to claim that the missile will hit a preselected weak point of the enemy… one has to wonder; if they have such a good seeker and such precise maneuvering capability, then today’s missiles (with explosive warheads and proximity fuses) should already have had a proven 100% pk for quite some time…
pretty much what I said in my previous post 😀
Why wouldnt hit-to-kill missile system work? the last decades of sensor and electronics development is really outstanding. i dont think there on thin ice. They know what they doing. Also more space for fuel is vital for a missilesystem.
Remember, PAC-3 use this kind of tech.
I hadn’t noticed that the market was overflowing with light 5G fighters.
A 5 gen smallest formfactor should be about F-35, due to big ordinance is supposed to be carried internaly. if only optimized for light
A-A (2 medium or 4 small missiles?) this would be a narrow requirement for a modern AF and a ambitios project.
As no revolution in downsizeing weapons packageing is coming soon.. i think we have a problem, maybe in a future laser era this is solved 🙂
But if you get rid of the pilot and all the systems around him/her, like seat, canopy instruments, cockpit, OBOGS, 9 suit systems etc. you could downsize the plane.
Probably 6 gen…
The Western alligned Asian countries have almost exclusively brought American since the 1950s.
European countries have been a bit more open e.g. Denmark brought J-35s, Belgium Mirage 5’s.
Now one could say those sales were in the 1970s but then the 4 original F-16 customers haven’t brought any combat jets since 1980s.
i would say, US dominance is going down. New developed Asian countries want more self reliance. Which they get with Euroware.
i wonder why theres a need for taking a new generic fighter to the market, why not take one step futher and make a UCAV. Thats a great complement to the market and even a good sell on export?
A Turkish-Korean-Swedish fighter?
Will it be delivered in a flat-pack with a wordless instruction sheet and an Allen key?
no, it will be delivered as a deadly package on your doorstep without you even notice it 😉
Regarding Oil prices , i do not think this will determine a whole lot the nature of the weapons system, what play a role would be the economic situation and the political atmosphere..
In 2050 the price of fuel is predicted to be 6-7 times higher than today. That figure are predicted to damperd the need for fuel so much, so its going a downhill after 2030. So in reality a new energy source for transportation are allready taken into account in the predictions.
Regarding Oil prices , i do not think this will determine a whole lot the nature of the weapons system, what play a role would be the economic situation and the political atmosphere..
In 2050 the price of fuel is predicted to be 6-7 times higher than today. That figure are predicted to damperd the need for fuel so much, so its going a downhill after 2030. So in reality a new energy source for transportation are allready taken into account.