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  • February 26, 2011 at 10:26 pm in reply to: Sea Gripen or Sea Typhoon? #2334556
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    And I know also that Saab is about to close is they don’t found new export customer fast. When you are on the corner, you can say anyting, even thing that you know are false.

    And sorry to contradict you, but marine environnement is new for Saab, they never have a plane on a carrier before… Is not because another division of the compagny build a submarine that you know how to build a catobar plane. Or Electric Boat Corporation, DCNS and Navantia will build catobar airplane in the next few years…

    well the enviroment(requirements of corrosion and moised, Hi EM levels) isnt new, the plane is.

    February 26, 2011 at 1:04 pm in reply to: Sea Gripen or Sea Typhoon? #2334941
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    Yeah.

    In fact, I have two Masters and one licence on differents subjects. 😉

    But this topic is about sea-gripen and sea-typhoon, I will not use all my time in responding to personnal attack, I think everybody can understand that.

    Then you probably know Saab is an enginering company that survived on good requirement evaluation and riskmanagement in every buisness opportunity.
    The trackrekord stand for it self. no need to worry. Hi EMC and radar enviroment isnt nothing new for saab, the got there own test enviroment. Marine environment isnt new ither..
    http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Naval/

    February 24, 2011 at 8:28 pm in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 7 #2336527
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    why would that be a problem? I thought the M88 had 900 mm diameter?

    mm and cm dont match 😀

    February 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm in reply to: Sea Gripen or Sea Typhoon? #2338668
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    Signatory, are you part of the Gripen sales team?

    Dear PPP
    Signatory is well known to have great insites on the gripen program. But i havent got that much. You probably confuse us with one another.
    I really just hate prejustice thoughts and generalizations.
    I have been “defending” rafale and other A/C for that matter also.

    February 21, 2011 at 7:12 pm in reply to: Sea Gripen or Sea Typhoon? #2338718
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    Rafale and SH could both be said to be more capable than Gripen(in some areas). However the BIG advantage they have over a “SeaGripen” is that they both exist now, and are currently operating off CVs.

    That they exist does not make them more capable. Gripen NG will be very capable and is developed today. I would not say SH or rafale is more capable exept MTOW and Rafale in range.

    February 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Sea Gripen or Sea Typhoon? #2338841
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    There are two planes already developed that are larger and more capable than the tiny gripen.

    well, thats your unsubstansiated opinion..

    February 20, 2011 at 10:18 pm in reply to: Rafales for Brasil #4, Cachorro-quente! #2339248
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    Dont make it a bad thing, if MMRCA and F-X2 was materialized, what would we wrangle about? 😮

    February 20, 2011 at 10:58 am in reply to: Sea Gripen or Sea Typhoon? #2339697
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    If, SAAB started today it would likely take a “good” decade to redesign, develop, and produce a Naval Gripen. (i.e. enter squadron service)

    At which time it would already be obsolete……

    Respectfully

    well respectully, you have no idea.

    February 11, 2011 at 7:09 pm in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2347751
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    The point is, they stated these in the initial requirements as well, that’s why I said that their aim was the Mirage 2000-5, but for several reasons the competition is not based on these requirements anymore. We went from light fighters to medium, from multi mode radar to AESA radar, from an simple Mig 21 replacement, to a focus on strike capabilities as well (possibly even with a naval side note), not to mention the high ToT and offsets, as well as strategic / diplomatic benefits.
    You simply can’t see it anymore just on basis of the earlier IAF requirements anymore, this is such a big competition and India wants big stuff in return as well. If politics will not decide alone (and I don’t give much on statements of politicians in front of a TV camera), the best package of advantages must win!

    Actually he said that LCA MK1 is not yet a 4th gen fighter, but that it will be one when it gets FOC, when all remaining issues will be solved. But as I said earlier, besides of specific techs and weapons, the base specs are very comparable between LCA and Gripen, but with an obvious gap to Rafale.

    Gripen C / Tejas MK1 / Gripen NG / Tejas MK2 / Rafale F3+

    Empty weight: 6.6t / 6.5t/ 7.1t / ~7t / 9.5t
    Internal fuel: 2.4t / 2.5t / 3.4t / 3.x t / 4.7t
    Dry thrust: 54kN / 55kN / 62kN / 62kN / 100kN
    AB thrust: 80kN / 85kN / 98kN / 98kN / 150 kN
    TWR: 0,91 / 0.96 / 0.95 / ~1 / 1.08
    MTOW: 14t / 13.5t / 16.5 / 15.x t / 24.5t
    Payload: 5.3t / 4t / 6t / 5.x t /9.5t
    Weapon stations: 7+1 / 7+1 / 7 to 9 + 1 / 7 (9?) + 1 / 9 + 2 (12 + 2 possible, depending on config)

    how do you calculate TWR?

    February 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm in reply to: Aero India 2011 #2347768
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    mmm..this is an interesting comparison..
    http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1738/cabs.jpg

    ermm..what does it mean there is no IFF in the swedish greek and mexico ones..:confused:

    this comparison is crap….nothing is right 😉

    February 6, 2011 at 1:02 pm in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2350620
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    What SAAB has and ADA/HAL doesn’t is the expertise at designing successful fighters throughout the past many decades. Now Indian defense Industrial complex may have more to offer than what Sweden does but that is besides the point (only may). If you look at the LCA for example it has as many foreign derived components as the Gripen has if not more. Even for the excellent FCS/FBW India was collaborating with the Americans before the nuclear tests.

    Now lets look at the AWACS SAAB has been making the Erieye for many years now and they have the SAAB 2000 platform to carry it (ofcourse it can be carried on Embarer as well). India on the other hand is just developing its on AWACS and needs Embarer airframes because of a lack of home grown alternative.

    Now lets look at India’s armour, nearly all critical systems in the Arjun is imported and it bears an uncanny resemblance to the MKI Leopard. The Swedes were designing their own tanks before opting for the German Leopard MKII.

    The only places where India has a lead over Sweden at the moment I believe is Space & Ballistic missile technology. Now this is not going to be the same always as Indian capabilities evolve, but it sure can use the help of some one like SAAB or any foreign entity with the relevant expertise to boost its current programmes.

    As i always said co-ops are the best way to evolve… its a win win..

    February 3, 2011 at 8:59 pm in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 6 #2351583
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    Boeing is showing of..
    http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_boeing-to-unveil-stealthier-f-a-18-aircraft_1502260
    But what does it have to do with india?
    Keen on follow-on orders perhaps?

    January 26, 2011 at 9:26 pm in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 4 #2355261
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    How could they build such a big fighter from the scattered ashes of a smaller bird? 🙂

    January 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm in reply to: Saab JAS 39 Gripen Info # 2 #2355383
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    Why not look at exhaust velocities before assuming you automatically know better based on one paper statistic?

    well, its almosed of linear correlation, so whats your problem really?

    January 25, 2011 at 5:43 pm in reply to: Saab JAS 39 Gripen Info # 2 #2356000
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    Read between the lines of that statement and consider the F414 isn’t designed to “supercruise” either…

    why not read the the difference of buypass ratio between the engines before making a fool out of youre self?

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