Im just a bit confused with the above article. Am I right in assuming that its talking about the AF version and not the naval version? Also what does ultimate in ultimate speed mean? Surely, 1350 KMPH (Mach 1.27) can’t be the top speed…unless its at some particular altitude?

it got past all those transonic problems and into true supersonic speed?

The F-22 probably got detected because Radar reflectors are added for peacetime operations. It also prevents its true RCS from being known.

Some pics of the luneberg reflectors.

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-11628.html

do they really use this in training? i doubt that..

Don’t be ridiculous ~ if GRIPEN really could reach 50,000 fts in less than one minute, it would be an extremely amazing and completely new world record……

http://www.propro.ru/flankers/eng/su-27.htm

P-42 Record Flanker, a heavily modified Flanker with the near 2:1 T/W ratio for breaking the previous record:

1. Time to climb to a height of 3000 m: 26s (Nikolai SADOVNIKOV 11/04/1987)

2. Time to climb to a height of 6000 m: 37s (E. I. FROLOV 31/03/1988)

3. Time to climb to a height of 9000 m: 47s (E. I. FROLOV 31/03/1988)

4. Time to climb to a height of 12000 m: 58s (Nikolai SADOVNIKOV 11/03/1987)

5. Time to climb to a height of 15000 m: 1min 16s (Nikolai SADOVNIKOV 11/03/1987)

ok, sorry. maybe im wrong but i read it in the first source i came over.

yes really nice pictures!
whats all those whiter dots allover aircraft?

You mean SEAD? I’d hope that the Taranis follow on would fill that niche.

It’d also be very expensive to buy one squadron of jets. It also would mean the Air Force doesn’t have anywhere near enough fighters without further Eurocanard purchases.

then you dont need the f-35 at all 🙂

And shown this only in PR claims!:diablo:

How do you rekon? first read back this thread you find gripen C M1.1 source from SwAF, and second, gripen NG official data from a manufacturers reallife testresults is PR claims?!

Then the F-35 cant fly.. its only PR claim.

The most common figure is 3750 km because :
– That’s the figure stated on Dassault’s website, but not for ferry range (3750 km = ~1000 nm, given for the combat radius on a penetration mission).
– That’s the figure agreed by the Typhoon fanboys (so that the Typhoon doesn’t look bad), amongst others.

The 1000 nm combat radius figure speaks volume in this regard, because the ferry range is very likely to be much longer due to a less demanding mission profile, and either a lighter weapons load or a larger external fuel load. You don’t fly a ferry profile like a real penetration combat mission, don’t you ?
So you can stick to the 3750 km figure if you wish, but that’s obviously wrong.

you allways to refer to it as wrong, get a real source (i dont say i dont believe you), but 3750 its the official number.
Again…ferry range is a “bad” profile to compare…
Ferry range is still the only profile that is possible compare fighter to fighter..(without proper data)
good night everyone..

I have seen a claim about 5600 km many years ago, though this would apply to a 5 tanks configuration totaling in 8500 l of external fuel or close to 14000 l in total.

ok this could be possible?! But it would seems impossible to get a source of it..
theres a lot of sources saying 3750km, so i sticking by it.