Fly away price?!
fly away price of 3 million dollars? thats sweet! 😉
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thanks for the info. any link that explains in any greater detail?
Links only in swedish and not in detail, so…
One can only speculate, until the investigation is through.
lock-in mechanism failed? hydralic pressure dropped at enginestop? thats would my amateur speculation.
21Ankush, it is true that as per Mr. Prasun Sengupta’s report, Su-30 MKI is equipped with TIDLS system. Now, although ‘TIDLS’ per se may be proprietary to SAAB (as mentioned by Sign), he may probably have meant a similar system to TIDLS, because after all it must be noted that a ‘cluster’ of Su-30 MKI are known to ”behave” like a virtual AWACs.
In TIDLS, four can share each others rawsensor data to for even more signalanalysis, for “black holes” och angular reflexions…. guide each others missiles..burnthru jamming….etc..
see also
http://jas39gripen.blogspot.com/
any info on what happened to cause the Gripen emergency landing with its nose wheel broken off?
A fault indication made the pilot to do a emergency landing. The circumstanses made the pilot to turn off the engine directly on the runway after a full stop. And the nose wheel just popped up(not broken) when the engine died. The causes is to be investigated.
Since ToT licences normally involve hefty fee, could one assume that India won’t be seeking ToT (with MMRCA) for any of that equipment besides AESA. Since MMRCA is more than likely to be IAF-specific – we have heard a lot about MKIzing it – its logical to use indigenous (cheaper as well as availability of codes etc) equipment than going for comparatively more expensive western/russian equipment.
As i did say, the sourcecodes are in the deal with gripen. It´s hardly cheaper to MKIzing a Gripen, F-18, or Rafale?! They wont fly with SU systems….
Its not like PC systems with windows..and its hardly no need. The SU was really in the need. But these babies are really state of the art.
And it will probably degrade em, especially in weight..MKIzined Gripen will probably wont fly just because of the weight..
What i heard ToT is already in the makeing…HAL will build and rafales and migs and Tata motor will be the contractor for Gripen and F18:ns..or am i wrong?
Sign, from the above list, with the exception of AESA radar, all other equipment are already present, or shall soon be installed on Tejas. Although TIDLS is already present in Su-30 MKI, plans for installing Tejas with it have not yet been announced by ADA.
I hardly doubed that.. TIDLS is a radiolink only operated by sweden.
Rated by many as the best in the world..
The other, the weight was discussed, the gripen systems known to be very lightweight..and can maybe be a help in reducing weight in Tejas. Because Tejas has avionics, it does not mean its lightweight..the total weight speeks for it self.
What i did reed was that it even has crt screens, if thats the tip of the isberg, it sound like alot hot analog and weighy systems to me.
And i haven´t heard of any 100kN+ engine..
HAL was founded 68 years ago, & its first jet fighter flew 47 years ago.
HAL was founded in 1964 according to them self… And what i was talking about is the designing of an own fighter jet…
I know they have done many good things in the past, like the MKI, that is really good peace of engineering.
But with all respect, that´s not designing your own jet, with all the underlying komponents, like avionics and sensors, frame, aero etc. That is what BOIENG, Dassault and SAAB has done in 60 years. So i hope they manage the big step, thats all.
http://www.radartutorial.eu/07.waves/wa16.en.html
http://www.radartutorial.eu/07.waves/wa17.en.htmlHope this helps
Nice link!
They’re aware of stealth, AESA, etc…, but it’s still several years before any of this technology shows up in a production model Russian aircraft.:D
In modern EW(gen 4+, Su-35 will be one) its alot detection capability is in the software. So when they ever has recorded some of the radar modes of the the F-35, they could have a EWS “map” to counter it. And then Raytheon changes the modes, and the race is on….;)
The article is biaised and sometimes plain wrong, but your assertion unfortunately also. The radar system of what is called Su-35 extremely powerful, and whereas the detection range against a F-35 is off course less than against a non-stealth opponent, it is nevertheless impressive enough and allows the Su to use its weapons way before entering a sure danger enveloppe. Weapon effectiveness will be the decisive factor here.
Depending on the Lightning II mission, it will either try to avoid the Su-35 altogether or call in Raptors for terminal fighting capabilities. The Lightning, as a fighter, is imho totally overestimated.
if you dont have the raptor on your team? (as all F-35 operators exept US)
Sorry, could you please elaborate?
If India buys the Gripen. India also get very much access to many very lightweight state-of-the-art systems(and source codes) that fits better into a smaller craft. (maybe not all of them fits).
Like:
EWS suit
AESA
MAW detectors
Laserwarners
Satcom
TIDLS
Avionics
Busses
MMI
HMD
modular Weaponsystems
100KN+ engine..
OBOGS
BOl dispersers
etc..
etc..
Ps. I Hope india get it right some day, but it takes an enormuos effort to evolve about 70 years in just 20, and also fit all ecuipment in to the smallest of packages..(Dassault, Boeing, SAAB has all been around for 70 years and evolving fighters).
More radar development
For radars 2013+ Saab Microwave Systems are cooperating with Selex and Elettronica in the program M-AESA.
“M” stands for multifunctional.
http://www.privataaffarer.se/nyheter/Pressmeddelanden/pressmeddelande.xml?intPressReleaseID=85468
the fruit from this program will be seen in gripen, sea and land radars.
Judging by the last sentence, it was BAe who approached Oman, not vice versa. But anyways, I think EF has very strong chances with Oman, be it now or later.
England has has a lot of “credit” in these parts, and its another way o business in these parts. Just like saudi, i dont think its going to be an open competion..
It all about good contacts in this region, and Bae seems to got that right..
Perhaps you should leave the theory in your lab an actualy use what you make and RIGHT you don’t know MAGIC and MICA either.
In short you have no idea of the real performances of these seekers and are still twising the point; IR seekers performance degrades WAY less than LASER…
Something else. AdA pilots uses to seak their tankers with Magic II before acquiering them visualy, this means that even so on paper and for guys like yourself Magic II seeker doesn’t do it, for a Mirage pilot it have BWR performaces in optimal conditions.
Because it was used to fire a MICA EM without the help of the radar and i don’t think this report is correct either.
Rangefinder is there from the traditional AdA F1/Jaguars equipements, certainly not for ranging MICA IRs.
Performances are NEAR-ALL-WEATHER since previous to 1999 with OSF development, get a grip with reality and stop taking your level of knowledge for a standard, some of us are actualy updated.:dev2:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/1999/06/09/51953/seeker-gets-on-track.html
Otherwise said it is not “either” it IS the first multi-spectral system in service and have WAY higher performaces in humid conditions as this article says…
Looks like you dont read about French technologies since before 1999
You shouldnt be so sarkastic, this is a discussion. You have know idea. I have been in the loop on both mica and meteor.
Ok, they say they see “considerably better detection capability in humid conditions” in 3-5mn(hope they mean nm :)) Have not heard about a “window in IR band” that passes water without any absorbtion..but i will look in to it. “Considerably better” is not “Near-all-weather” buy all means…