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  • in reply to: Me109 Forced Landing in Denmark #976600
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    What a shame. Seems these DB engined 109’s are having quite a bit of bad luck.
    Did Mark Hannah fly one of these DB engined 109’s at Duxford. I was told he landed with a quit engine once?

    Mark Hannah landed with a prop that was malfunctioning a very good source told me. Got some photo’s of it somewhere. Same aircraft later suffered a con rod out the side of the block to destroy the bottom end of its DB605D

    The DB605 series were not as robust as imagined and quite a few Luftwaffe aces lost their lives after DB605 failures, Hans-Joachim Marseille being one of the most prominent.

    in reply to: Jacquard Spitfire #936610
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    I’m sure its a given the engine will be thoroughly inspected, but given the wooden blades sheer off the way they do I would imagine the potential for engine damage is minimal with “that incident”. Certainly you wouldn’t want to go into combat with anything that fragile, or for that matter fly a public display.

    in reply to: Jacquard Spitfire #937266
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    Opps on landing

    Anyone seen this? is it recent A frequent visitor to Legends

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81HHZF5wJng

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2013 #937366
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    Perhaps the only way is to use R2600 Wright Cyclone engines and fly it in NZ or Aus

    in reply to: Australian Buried Spitfire Claims – Outcome? #942124
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    While we are at it there is a B17 buried in Benbecula, must be worth digging up seeing as it served with the RAF

    in reply to: One For The Engine Experts… #1012506
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    DB 606 or 610 Double engine.

    in reply to: North Weald DC-4 lives again! #952908
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    All large piston aero engines are susceptible to detonation as they are all super-charged. For your information the DC4 was powered by The R-2000 which produced 1,300 hp @ 2,700 rpm with 87 octane, 1,350 hp with 100 octane and 1,450 hp @ 2,800 rpm with 100/130-grade fuel.

    The dual rating of late war fuel was to reflect that on a petrol engine if you make the mixture rich it lowers the temperature and the risk of detonation, and HP can be increased. 100LL should be good enough for the R2000.

    in reply to: Max Hastings' Bomber Command #970619
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    Blue Robin. The first thing I would ask before you read Bomber Command by Max Hastings is have you read any other accounts of the Bomber war? The reason I ask is almost all books written before about 2000 get a lot wrong on the political and strategic reasoning behind some operations. In particular the account of the political situation post December 1944 is not covered accurately at all, and as others state Hastings put nearly everything on Harris when he was following orders and was often at odd with some of the raids he was asked to do. I read the Martin Middlebrook books first which are accurate operational accounts allowing you to gauge the level at which Hastings has researched his work. I also recommend reading Dresden by Frederick Taylor, which sets the record straight on what happened that night. You will be surprised by what you read in this book.

    Then when you read the Hastings book you see where he has perhaps glossed over critical details that explain certain decisions and where he is just plain inaccurate. Hastings I think brings his 70’s hindsight to bear on everything Harris did without trying to understand the mood of the Day. For me it has never been properly stressed that the combined Bomber offensive was more than just a few bombers bombing Germany day and night. There was the political war, the technological war, the industrial production war and all manner of support operations every night whether the bombers went out or not. And the Mosquito bomber units that often flew 2 missions per night in grossly overloaded aircraft get scant coverage, not to mention 100 support group. There was a lot more to Harris’ Job than he is given much credit for, and mistakes by subordinates he took on the chin and supported like a good boss. It’s a pity his bosses could not have reciprocated.

    Bomber Harris by Henry Probert first published 2001 is the best account of Harris that I have read. Remember it is said of history that it is not until everyone is long dead that we get to the truth. I feel that the definitive work on bomber command is yet to emerge and when it does it will need to be 2 or three volumes with perhaps 2 book sized appendixes.

    in reply to: Typhoon aerodynamic tests #981331
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    According to Pete Pavey very detailed article “The war time link between Bristol and Napier” in the Rolls Royce Heritage publication “Sleeve Notes”, no 50, the Napier Heritage records indicate the final sleeve material I.e the Sabre V, VI, & VII (as a result of Bristol’s recommendation) was centri cast DTD 306 (En 40v) a 65 ton/sqin Nitriding Steel. The article confirms that Napier got priority on American production equipment.

    Thanks for the Update on sleeve material. The Sabre V was the engine for the Tempest 6 and the Sabre VII was an updated version with ADI.

    in reply to: Typhoon aerodynamic tests #981469
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    I don’t believe it was the finish on the sleeves that was the major problem, it was distortion. All sorts of materials were tried and it was only when Bristol were instructed to reveal their methods the problem was solved. Bristol sleeves were machined from centrifugal castings which were very stable. When Napier switched to the same the reliability was transformed.
    I was told some years ago that Sabre sleeves were made by GKN in Chesterfield and have no reason to doubt it.

    Sabre sleeves were finally made from nitrided austenitic forgings and machine tools (sunstrand centreless grinders) were diverted from the new P&W plant in Kansas that was to make the R-2800 C. This gives an indication of the importance politically that was attached to the Sabre. So not only was Bristol beaten into submission but also the Americans.

    But I repeat from above that there were many issues of assembly to overcome, and then of miss adjustment in service by fitters. By 1944 the engine was out of the woods and able to deliver its phenomenal power just as reliably as any other allied engine. A family friend now sadly passed away flew Typhoons and flew 60 missions from the beachhead in the same aircraft without an abort. But he was an exception pilot, and hated anyone else flying his aircraft. He never rated any of the piston powered aircraft as reliable, and was more than happy when the jet came along.

    A production Sabre passed a 100 hour type test at 2500hp towards the end of the war, and the engines that went into the Tempest 6 were type tested at 3500hp. Finally a version with ADI was run at 4000hp. These power outputs were from std production engines rated at between 2500 and 3000 in service. These power outputs have never been matched by any other production piston engine.

    The fastest Fury was powered by a Sabre, it was significantly faster than the Centaurus powered Sea Fury. By comparison with the woes that Wright Aeronautical suffered with the R-3350, the Sabre was a model of reliability.

    in reply to: Typhoon aerodynamic tests #984035
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    Slight Thread -Drift, but;-
    Given that the Typhoon suffered from so many problems, I’ve often wondered if any of them, DNA-like, were carried over onto the Napier-powered Tempest…?

    -Certainly the new wing cured the problems with the limiting mach number.
    -What about the fumes?
    -The tail-end?
    -As for the Sabre, although it was better in later versions, I can’t imagine it was ever really viewed as acceptable. The radial-engined Tempest must have been so much easier to live with. Quieter, less oil all over the windscreen, and it’d actually start….!

    The u/c was different on the Tempest too. I always wondered why Hawkers went to the trouble of re-designing it…..?

    I would just like to echo Dave R about the Sabre. Its design was sound but the initial engines that came out of the government shadow factory in Liverpool suffered a number of manufacturing and assembly issues.

    The biggest issue was the finish on the sleeves. It took the intervention of Churchill I believe with Bristols executives to convince them both companies were on the same side. After this machine tools for the Taurus could be used on the Sabre Sleeves. Tighter controls in the assembly area eliminated the dirt problems, and a number of court-martial’s were needed to convince the fitters to pay attention when adjusting the throttle and boost controls. After that it was up to the pilots to control the engine correctly.

    The sabre had a very high cruise rpm giving the Typhoon and later Tempest a very high cruise speed compared to Spitfire and other allied or Axis aircraft. Many Typhoon took of on missions that only lasted 10 to 15 minutes in Normandy and most of that time would be spent at full throttle. In this environment the Sabre was supreme, better even than the Merlin, and certainly no less reliable.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2012 #1004394
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    I’ll give it one last go to try and get the point across.

    It’s really quite simple to understand, the main applicable radiation regulations have been enshrined in Acts of Parliament for nearly 19 years so it is Law – also remember that successful prosecutions have been made in the museum sector!

    Some cracking updates of a great aviation venue!!

    I take you point completely. That is not the point of my comments. Its not about those that are just following their orders or the rules. There is an absurdity surrounding anything to do with radiation that is almost to the level of parody. It like the idiotic rules that EON have that prevents a engineer from standing 18 inches off the ground to service my kitchen boiler. Yes there are HS rules about working off the ground, but EON don’t trust their own engineers to make the risk assessment anymore, so there are just not allowed to do it. This is my point.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2012 #1006292
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    I have edited this post because I didn’t read Chris’s Comment correctly. Sorry Chris

    Anyway this bit is still of interest.

    Just to give you all a tastes for the total institutional overreaction to low does radiation in the face of ALL the scientific evidence, I’ll let you all in on some evidence.

    The people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima are the most studied in the world. We all know why. Those that were around in August 1945 and exposed to a low dose of radiation have a higher average life expectancy than their fellow country men and women. I am not talking the high dose that causes radiation sickness, but the low dose that is supposed to cause rampant increase in cancers. By low dose we mean X-ray and a little above, which is way more than Nuclear workers are allowed but what you can get naturally, and way more that you could ever get from those instruments.

    The same evidence is emerging out of Chernobyl despite all the misinformed commentary we tend to get. Thyroid cancer in children has been the big on going issue but they are not sure that the Potassium taken to stop the build up of radioactive iodine wasn’t in fact more harmful. The biggest issue arising out of that disaster has been stress caused by the fear of radiation and the dislocation of peoples lives, both of which need not have happened.

    If someone wants to counteract what I say then be my guest with a real scientific study. But I would be willing to bet there is no way what so ever of there being any REAL danger from those spitfire instruments. Hell every person my age had a watch with a luminous dial as well as numerous appliances around the house. Judging by some of the youngsters around today we perhaps should irradiate some of them.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2012 #1006622
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    Does the HSE have specific rules for dealing with WW11 instruments as plenty of people would I am sure wish to see them.

    As someone who has looked into these thing for other reasons I can guarantee the HSE has no rules for WWII instruments and that what we see are the ludicrous interpretation of the misguided precautionary principle. We see this stupidity all around us every day with hi-vis clothing and hard hats mandatory even though the public are in the same place, EON not able to service my gas boiler because the engineer needed to be 18 inches off the ground I kid you not. Its not the HSE, its plain stupidity and ridiculousness.

    All it is leading to is a population incapable of judging risk, and ultimately we are past the point of reducing risk and accidents to a point where people expect no risk or danger in anything they do and so don’t see danger as we once did. And as a result we see a new bread of idiot emerging into the world.

    in reply to: Duxford Diary 2012 #1007821
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    Thankfully luminous dials do not seem to have been a problem for Cotteswold or a number of other WWII pilots who are happily still with us.

    Peter

    That is because low dose radiation is more than likely good for us. The obsession with the notion that any level of radiation is dangerous is not based on science but the ludicrous precautionary principle. Nice fluffy words but completely wrong and against all the science. But these days we don’t let mere facts getting in the way of reality.

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