The PAKFA will fly in 20009 not 2009

Ba dum dump…………Funny Man

Personally, I think it may be a lota hype, comapred to my F-22 (sorry, I have to say it) but I do think it will be one hellvua dam good airplane, just like every other ruskie aircraft has been. Sometimes better, sometimes not, but always close to front of the class…if not finding its way to the front….

I read the accident summary when the Air Force was released it last April. Flush air data ports in front of the pilot’s windscreen filled with rainwater (the ports face up). The port heaters were not turned on long enough before flight to evaporate the water (a poorly documented preflight maintenance procedure). As the B-2 accelerated down the runway, the air data system could not determine the jet’s angle of attack due to the water. The jet pitched up, stalled and rolled to the left.

Quite frankly, I have no reason to doubt the USAFs reasoning behind this crash because the crash happened because of BS procedures, someone screwed up, and we saw what happened. Why is this answer provided by DJCROSS and other forum members not understandable….?

And again, what does a bad air data computer reading due to high a moisture content (erroneous as it was) have to do with rain soaked surfaces in regards to a radars detection threshold?

I hope that we all understand that in a FBW aircraft, with a computer making “our” inputs happen, there are many times when a pilot has no chance to override the FCS…….its just doing what it is programmed to do…..

My best bets on the F-22 are that the extra 60 units that Congress funded recently get built…….and that’s all.

The F-35 could well get some marginal cuts but not in the near term (as it would spook partner countries and inflate agreed purchase prices) and not in any truly great numbers. The U.S. Navy is pushing for extra SHs right now since it sees a “fighter shortfall” in the next few years before the F-35 really gets going……..I can see F-35 numbers whittled down in the future to pay for the extra SHs now. That kind of stuff.

Either way, I don’t think there will be significant changes to each program right now considering the economic situation and the impact that harming each would have in this environment

WHat hey said, a few more F-22s and a good chance of a smaller buy of F-35s, hopefully not to small to F up the whole program….

Yet, price vs capability………..:cool:

Now if you want to talk WOMEN! Its always worth paying a little more for quality!;) He11, a lot more if you can afford it…….:diablo:

On that note….I’m out 😀 , y’all have a good time debatin this now since I got it started, Happy Friday everyone.

What everybody wants is the money to be spent wisely………….:cool:

Which, often is not………:(

HERE HERE,,,,,actually, If I may add, if spent by politicians is rarely spent wisely…..

Do I really need to get into this? Come on, please, unless someone ask me to I have got enough domestic political BS to deal with let alone defense appropriations.

This guy is a farce, the new president that is. It will be shown within a year, 2 at the most. Hell, I just hope he doesn’t F up this country too much in the next 4, thats all I gota say right now since I have been single handedly singled out by his chief economic adviser as not needing “a whole Lotta help” when it comes to bailouts since I’m a white male construction worker. (Not that I am looking for a handout, I just think its funny they are gona try to hand it out to certain ethnic groups rather than the sob’s, like me, who can get the god dam job done no matter what our color is).

Defense procurement? Maybe some more F-22s, i doubt the almost 400 the AF wants but i can see a few more year run……F-35s……I can see numbers cut drastically which will have major implications with our allies…..Probably would be so expensive we would be better off buying the original number or close to it, but then again I’m not an economics guy, I just seem to have a knack for how things work in DC.

Oh and NYRANGERFAN, you didn’t really believe in all that change mantra did ya? Take a look at the anointed ones administration and tell me where the change is…..when ya do, get back to me I’d love to hear your explanation.

PS: Saying that, Me and GWB are 50:50…….But quite frankly he F’ed up more than he did good….. YA happy? And yes, I am a true conservative who is a borderline libertarian/secessionist.

How the **** do you smuggle a shark under a jacket?!

Nurse sharks bite, and bite hard if they feel threatened!!

Maybe the convicted felon likes to be bitten, and quite possibly spanked by the sharks tail 😀