I think I have a foot in Anna’s camp….Iknow that he madeoff with loads of money, lost it etc…..but when I first heard of his sentence I did not know it was about Madeoff. I heard the words 150years….and he was a monster and immediately thought oh good they are giving a decent, huge long sentence to a serial killer? An unpleasant paedophile perchance? A rapist?….nope a fraudster. Sorry, but it seems in this world that money is king and that if you dare do fraud, etc then you will get a bigger sentence than you would for an unpleasant murder or unspeakable act on a fellow human. Sure, a deterrent sentence is required but why is it considered worse by some justice systems? A nasty person murdered little child in a nasty way and got a recommended minimum sentence of 23years? How is that person ‘better’ than Madeoff?
Personally, I totally agree with you, but I will say this. One lawbreaker takes or abuses a human life, the the other destroys people’s property. The way I see it, especially when dealing with this Madoff character, the crime is the same, just of a different nature.
Granted, I have heard stories/rumors that this whole scheme Madoff was running was to good to be true, and people’s (some, not all, but I’m sure a fair amount) greed got the better of them and their sound judgments, but that still does not make it right.
On the flip side though, there are many more schemes and schemers out there that have yet to be charged with anything (let alone treason), so I would hope, but am not expecting, some sort of heavy prosecution of all these characters. Why? Not because it would make any sort of dent in the fiscal crisis a lot of our houses are in. Not even for vengeance, doing this will have no effect on my life other than saying good riddance and smiling for 5 seconds. Why must this be done? Because it is the right thing to do. If people, rich or poor, believe they can do anything unlawful for whatever reason they can conjure up, and get away with it, the rule of law has become useless, and society will cease to exist on the level that it does now.
I think I have a foot in Anna’s camp….Iknow that he madeoff with loads of money, lost it etc…..but when I first heard of his sentence I did not know it was about Madeoff. I heard the words 150years….and he was a monster and immediately thought oh good they are giving a decent, huge long sentence to a serial killer? An unpleasant paedophile perchance? A rapist?….nope a fraudster. Sorry, but it seems in this world that money is king and that if you dare do fraud, etc then you will get a bigger sentence than you would for an unpleasant murder or unspeakable act on a fellow human. Sure, a deterrent sentence is required but why is it considered worse by some justice systems? A nasty person murdered little child in a nasty way and got a recommended minimum sentence of 23years? How is that person ‘better’ than Madeoff?
Personally, I totally agree with you, but I will say this. One lawbreaker takes or abuses a human life, the the other destroys people’s property. The way I see it, especially when dealing with this Madoff character, the crime is the same, just of a different nature.
Granted, I have heard stories/rumors that this whole scheme Madoff was running was to good to be true, and people’s (some, not all, but I’m sure a fair amount) greed got the better of them and their sound judgments, but that still does not make it right.
On the flip side though, there are many more schemes and schemers out there that have yet to be charged with anything (let alone treason), so I would hope, but am not expecting, some sort of heavy prosecution of all these characters. Why? Not because it would make any sort of dent in the fiscal crisis a lot of our houses are in. Not even for vengeance, doing this will have no effect on my life other than saying good riddance and smiling for 5 seconds. Why must this be done? Because it is the right thing to do. If people, rich or poor, believe they can do anything unlawful for whatever reason they can conjure up, and get away with it, the rule of law has become useless, and society will cease to exist on the level that it does now.
Hey, thank you very much there old shape, I for one appreciate that. Hope everyone elses 4th was as fun and festive as mine was.
Hey, thank you very much there old shape, I for one appreciate that. Hope everyone elses 4th was as fun and festive as mine was.
Ah you mean The Sun and its famous page 3
For those non-UK readers who may not know – WARNING – NSFW!
Is this how they are trying to stir up new readership? HA :diablo:
Hell, if that rag the New York Times put one of these pages in their weekender, I would buy it also. 😉
Sorry to go off topic, I just felt a bit of humor needed to be injected into this thread.
My opinion, if you don’t want to know the cockenbull size du jour, just ignore the thread. Still plenty of interesting stuff and people to go around for everyone. (Hell, I just leaned about Page 3 !!!!!! 😀 )
To be honest, I only read this because of the pictures.
Oh, my mistake, wrong periodical, I posted in the wrong forum. 😀
QuadroFX’s identity revealed!!
Ya shoochoo, prosta 😉
LOL, that just made my day Otaku, that is too dam funny
I can’t get Yoda’s voice out of my head now dammit lol
Now if we could only drag the Federal Reserve Chairman, and all elected officials in DC in front of this same judge and make examples of them all, for basically the same crime…..
This may very well be my last posting, I think I saw a black helicopter headed my way, they must have forgotten to put the silent drive on. 😮
Now if we could only drag the Federal Reserve Chairman, and all elected officials in DC in front of this same judge and make examples of them all, for basically the same crime…..
This may very well be my last posting, I think I saw a black helicopter headed my way, they must have forgotten to put the silent drive on. 😮
I couldn’t help myself with the first one, I just had to post it….That is my redneck alter-ego
The second, “I’m on a Boat” with my favorite poison JD, thought that would be a nice addition to the “Favorite Poison Thread”
Third pic is from a WWII weekend in my area, just parking the “Texas Limo” for the night
I couldn’t help myself with the first one, I just had to post it….That is my redneck alter-ego
The second, “I’m on a Boat” with my favorite poison JD, thought that would be a nice addition to the “Favorite Poison Thread”
Third pic is from a WWII weekend in my area, just parking the “Texas Limo” for the night
Each Carrier has 2 ES-3A Shadow (converted Viking) for passive sniffing.
Not any more, they were taken out of service for “budgetary” reasons back in late 90s.
Getting a call from a head hunting agency saying a company was interested in me for possible employment……Only to find out this “head hunting” agency is a joke and is really in business to get info on people for colleges….they shouldn’t be allowed to post information on job search websites, and I mean the main sites over here in the states.
Also, I cut my hand pretty badly 6 weeks ago, cut the flexor tendon and nerve of my left thumb. The nerve is healing nicely, but I still have no movement of the tip of my thumb, so the doctor wants to give it two more weeks (Total of an extra month of therapy). If the tendon doesnt break free from the scar tissue, he will have to preform surgery again, clearing the scar tissue out and hopefully that works, otherwise the tendon reattachment failed and then I don’t know what happens, the doc said something along the lines of that being a “problem” if the tendon is detached for too long, probably looses its elasticity is my guess.
Getting a call from a head hunting agency saying a company was interested in me for possible employment……Only to find out this “head hunting” agency is a joke and is really in business to get info on people for colleges….they shouldn’t be allowed to post information on job search websites, and I mean the main sites over here in the states.
Also, I cut my hand pretty badly 6 weeks ago, cut the flexor tendon and nerve of my left thumb. The nerve is healing nicely, but I still have no movement of the tip of my thumb, so the doctor wants to give it two more weeks (Total of an extra month of therapy). If the tendon doesnt break free from the scar tissue, he will have to preform surgery again, clearing the scar tissue out and hopefully that works, otherwise the tendon reattachment failed and then I don’t know what happens, the doc said something along the lines of that being a “problem” if the tendon is detached for too long, probably looses its elasticity is my guess.
So as long as I can read and understand, Out of 187 Raptors, only 87 will be
“upgradeable” ? Please tell me my reading skills are being lost for lack of use, becuase otherwise this is a huge f’ing joke.