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  • in reply to: Can fly by wire Airbus airplanes recover from a stall #2228376
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    spitfire

    Actually I have heard of several aircraft that have stall recovery problems that include inverted spins.

    Another question is———–during training do Airbus pilot do stalls, or at least in simulators?

    And lastly again in the Air Asia crash the tail came off, like the at least two other Airbus crashes. Now the one off Long Island they blamed the pilot for using too much rudder when recovering from wing tip currents from another heavy. Personally I think that is BS and a cover for a poor weak design. I do know for that reason some senior Pilots will not fly Airbuses or let they families fly on them.

    in reply to: Best subsonic fighter of the 50's #2228395
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    IMO for the Air Force the F-86 and for the Navy the Cougar.

    Absoulutely no to the Mig-15, as it couldnt even go supersonic going straight down without probably breaking up.

    But then they are from the early 80s. So actually my choices are the F8U Crusader, and the F-104.

    in reply to: Bad decisions by the Pentagon #2224974
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    The almost brand new MIG 25 the russian pilot flew into Japan was not as fast as a B-70. There was a placard on the panel that said—“never exceed mach 2.8”. Even at that speed it burned out its engines, and they had to be changed.

    From what I have read, the SR-71 had missiles fired at it over 2000 times and was never hit. It would seem that the same would have gone for the B-70. The real shame that the B-70 was never built is the fact that tens of thousands of hours of flying at mach 3 was never flown. IMO MacNamara set high speed aviation back 15 or 20 years when he had the program cancelled.

    in reply to: Bad decisions by the Pentagon #2225401
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    Even rockets with thrust vectoring need wings or fins to “lift” the missile in a turn. Without the wing or fin area to react against, all thrust vectoring will do at very high altitudes is turn the missile side ways. At the altitude the B-70 was designed to fly, that is an iffy thing for an anti aircraft missile.

    Example during the cold war Russian fighters couldnt stay with even a B-47 in high altitude turns. In the early years of its deployment the B-47 scared the hell out of the Russians.

    in reply to: Bad decisions by the Pentagon #2225681
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    mig31

    At the altitude the B-70 was designed to fly, what fighter or missile could turn with the B-70? It had a huge wing area, and its compression lift.

    in reply to: Bad decisions by the Pentagon #2225930
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    levsha

    If cancelling the B-70 was a good idea, how come we are still flying the B-52 probably up into the 2040s. A B-70 would carry cruise missiles to their launch point much higher, and 3 timess faster.

    in reply to: C-130 60th! #2229005
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    A truely great aircraft. I remember back at Moffett Field around 1960 Ames Labs had a special 130 outfitted with huge flaps and boundary layer jets that blew down the flaps. It probably had very little weight on board, but it could take off in 3 aircraft lengths and land in 5!!!

    in reply to: best looking stealth fighter #2233292
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    I agree with the people that voted for the F-23. Im still grumpy that the AF didnt chose it. It was admittedly faster and stealther. They say it didnt dog fight as well as the F-22, but if you stealthy enough to get in firing range without being seen, kiss the other guy goodby, and there is no need to dogfight.

    in reply to: The 'JUST A NICE PIC…' thread #2226334
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    tomcat

    Yes it does some. When you look at the A3J, it is indeed the prototype for the F-14, the F-15, and several Russian fighters. The only thing different was the Vigilante had only one rudder. When North American first submitted the design it had twin rudders, but the Navy talked them into just the one that folded over.

    As far as the Crusader goes, it was from the same era as the F-100, but with a little more powerful J-57 it was nearly 400 mph faster. And due to the ignorance of the armchair warriors in the Pentagon it was the last of the gun fighters for a while. Very few planes were as impressive as a Crusader on takeoff with the afterburner spewing a 20 foot flame.

    in reply to: The 'JUST A NICE PIC…' thread #2226470
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    After looking thru all 22 pages so far I vote for the B-70 bomber.

    I am also disappointed there wasnt a few pictures of the F8U Crusader, and the A3J Vigilante. The Vigilante seemed to be the prototype of so many great fighters.

    Good pictures of either anyone?

    in reply to: You kind of wonder #2235166
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    Yes the F8U was a gun fighter. It was designed just before the arm chair know it alls in the Pentagon decided that guns were useless. How many reports have we all read about fighter pilots in Nam cursing those fools that they had no guns. These pilots said if only I had a gun the Mig right in front of me would have been shot down. Finally they hung external guns under the F4s but that only slowed them down and added unnessary weight.

    Yes we have the F-22 and the kind of the F-35, but just you wait, some idiot will want to add bomb shackels under the f-22. The problem still remains that the more complicated a machine (an airplane) is the more prone to failure it is! Notice how the simple light weight MIG-21s gave the F4s hell. Notice how the anvil simple AK47s works when american rifles jam. Or Zeros out classed american fighters in WWII.

    in reply to: You kind of wonder #2236070
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    Maybe if the F-35 wasnt intened to be the do all, end all, do everything, be all things to all people it wouldnt be such a POS as it is so far. It plainly shows that there should be two classes of aircraft, fighters, and attack planes. If you had the two classes of plane, one as an ASF and one as an attack plane, they could be simplified for that role.

    For support of my argument, I offer the F-111 designed under the self proclaimed genius MacNamara. As a fighter it was to be great for both the Air Force and the Navy. It was a total turkey. Only when it was turned into a medium bomber did it become useful. Why didnt the Pentagon learn from this stupid idea of making one design a do all design. Additionally———-when we had the F8U and the A4D, they were great at their separate roles.

    in reply to: Is the F-35 the New F-4 Phantom? #2222408
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    This is an interesting question. Only time will tell.

    While the F-4 turned out to be a good aircraft, it was again another case of where the wrong aircraft was picked. The F-4 was up against the F8U-3 Crusader. The dash 3 was much faster, flew higher, and could fly rings around the F-4. That was another deal where politics or misinformed people in the seat of power picked the wrong plane. The lates example of this was when the F-22 was picked over the F-23. The F-23 was faster, and more stealthy. You cant shoot down what you cant see.

    When the hell are we going to get over the really stupid idea that every plane need to be all things to all people? A fighter needs to be an air superiority fighter, not a plane that can carry bombs and refuel other planes, and be a target drone puller. IMO separating planes according to the task at hand, makes them better at their task and also cheaper.

    in reply to: McNamara set aviation back at least 40 years. #2245200
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    I just plain disagree with all the anti B-70 posts. Look logically at a couple of facts. The SR-71 was NEVER shot down by missles, even tho fired at several thousand times. SAMs are short range, and the B-70 would run them out of fuel before they could get to the B-70. Also we are still flying the B-52 as a viable weapon system. So tell me if the AF thinks a B-52 flying at 45,000 feet and 600 mph, why wouldnt a B-70 flying at 80,000 feet and mach 3 be more surviable? Remember these days a B-52 does not fly directly over the target, they stand off and fire weapons at the target hundreds of miles away. A B-70 would do the same thing except higher and faster and closer, and still be able to get away.

    I contend that an enemy would have to fill their country with SAM sites every 10 miles all over the country to be able to shoot down a B-70. So many sites that a country would go broke doing so.

    Lastly a MIG-25 was mentioned, as the USSR response to the B-70. When one was handed over to us in Japan, it was found out that it was so poor quality there was a placard on the panel that said “dont exceed mach 2.8”. Also its maneuverablity was in question. So how was a plane that was much slower and less maneuverable going to shoot down the B-70?

    It remains that IMO NcNamara and his “whiz kids” that gave us the Edsel were idiots!!!!!!

    in reply to: McNamara set aviation back at least 40 years. #2246964
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    Wilhelm

    That still leaves a SAM with small fins trying to stay with the B-70 in a turn at 80,000 feet. The B-70 had nearly 4000 sq feet of wing area to be able to make a turn at that altitude.

    BTW additional proof of this is that in the 50s, there were few fighters that could stay with a B-47 or B-52 at altitude in a tight turn. They both scared the hell out of the USSR. As they say about car engines “there aint no substitute for cubic inches” and in airplanes that high altitude there aint no substitute for wing area.

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