I wish I had bothered to do a bit more research before writing the previous, it would have saved you reading it. This Independent article is a good summary of the situation I think, for the lay reader, outlining the widespread storage of mustard gas in WW2 at RAF bases.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/sixty-secret-mustard-gas-sites-uncovered-1335343.html
#6 hampden98. I cannot find the reference now in Alanbrooke (Chief of the Imperial General Staff) “War Diaries” but somewhere there is a discussion between him and Churchill after the event that Churchill was prepared to order the use of chemical weapons if the Germans had landed in 1940. Someone here will know more. I seem to recall somewhere from the greater depths of my failing mind that Lysanders would have been used for aerial drops.
Someone might be able to indicate whether the storage site was possibly a WW1 training area before the RAF use of the site?
The forthcoming press conference might reveal detail or dismiss the latter.
Dave Homewood #495.
This link to WW2 Talk site, (if you have the time to work through its length!) has photographs of several wrecks of Hurricanes, Spitfires and a Ju88 on the Dunkirk beaches, including N3200.
Post 192. Phantom Spitfire over Audlem for three consecutive days. I really must sort out my friend. It was a Yak I am told. Apologies to Mr R J Mitchell.
? Spitfire over Audlem?
A friend reports that for three days up to yesterday he has seen a Spitfire over Audlem on the Cheshire Shropshire border south of Nantwich
Any thoughts on which aircraft it might be and why ?
Thanks
WZ
Instruments.Radioactivity. Radium paint widely used back in the day. Asbestos possibly from firewalls and brakes.
Slightly off topic, I have donated old magazines to the RAF Museum shop at Cosford. This was done after discussion with the shop manager so that they could ensure they could handle the number that would be delivered. There is a doorway that you can bring your car up to. In this way, as long as you do not want money for your collection, you can ensure that real enthusiasts can get what they want and more money goes to conservation. “Every little helps”.
They will also sometimes take certain book collections. Again this should be done by prior arrangement as I did.
The original post does not mention Lysanders, but says he dropped seo (?SOE) in France. “Dropping” if I remember correctly involved Sterling bombers that were withdrawn from Bomber Command and used for SOE insertion by parachute, arms drops etc. So, the original story gained by Mr Merry seems to hold up.
The Northwich southern by pass was not complete at the start of the war but had long dual carriageway sections already metalled but not all linked to the existing road network. Locals recall that one section was fenced off and became a rubber recycling depot in order to create, presumably, a strategic reserve. One contended nothing ever moved out of the depot for the duration of the war, presumably because other supplies were adequate, but it may be possible that the experiments in post1 were still on going.
A spokesman for Geology Today said that they found plenty of old fossils on the mound.
Avro York.
The navigator wrote an autobiography which I have somewhere. More details below in his obit.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/obituaries/obituary-air-commodore-john-mitchell-winston-churchill-s-personal-navigator-1-4033527
Beermat #31 wrote
“Just ask anyone who flew it in combat – there are still some around, and I have. None of them mention the engines as anything other than perfectly OK.”
I have had in the past access to the Log Book of Flight Sergeant Frank Waldron of 137 Squadron who flew Whirlwinds from January 1942 to October that year before he was shot down. In all he flew 30 different Whirlwinds in 174 flights. I can hardly recall a time that he was forced to abandon a flight, once I think.
This is a wonderful thread and I delight in every addition to it.
Re post 100 by Mustang 51. No way am I getting into the warfare over originality, but adding to 51’s point, in wartime it really wasn’t so unusual to cannibalise from the parts bin. The RAFM Hampden at Cosford has parts from three aircraft in it if I remember correctly and many BoB Hurricanes in particular and some Spitfires were mongrels rather than thoroughbreds after going back to central repair depots or even manufacturers after crash or battle damage, R4118 was rebuilt several times in WW2 before Tony Ditheridge weaved his magic of more recent times. Simply put, I defy anyone to show me a currently flying aircraft that is 100% original as built. We all have got to compromise somewhere.
Whatever your view point, lets have as many as possible flying and bless everyone who has the money to do it so we can keep these skills alive and show the products of those skills to the next generation.
I will not say this reply applies everywhere, but it is a cautionary tale I believe. I have been dealing with one counties museum, library and archive services and Mrs WZ is a volunteer in one section of it and confirms my external observation. The solidity of these organisations is being rocked by budget and staff cuts. Documents are being lost and staff churn means there is sometimes a lack of corporate knowledge and memory as to what is there and where it is, as re-filing does not take place. Trevor Kletz wrote, “Organisations have no memory, only people have memories, and they move on”.
Digitise the record. and by all means lodge a copy locally, but do offer copies to IWM, RAFM, British Library and air museums that have research facilities. Take advantage of websites such as this, AIX WW2 to publicise the existence and location of your copies. Make sure the original has a safe home for when you have gone blue skies. Store copies on open cloud sites. Just a few ideas there. Good luck.
Marauder in the background of the hangar.
The Spitfire is a beauty, but they all are. Grandad would have loved it, a CBAF sheet metal worker.