Well, we’ve nearly done it. Brought to you by Billy J Kramer, we’ve had Trains and Planes, anybody for Boats?
Johannes Steinhoff wrote in his book Straits of Messina (1971) page 24 that JG 77 carried their mechanics crouching in the rear fuselage of their Me 109’s when they flew from Tunis to Trapani in Sicily on May 8 1943. The mechanics had accessed this space by crawling in through the radio access hatches in the rear fuselage. They had no parachutes and in any case, no chance of bailing out even if they had parachutes.
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Have you looked at the National Archives discovery site?
You may find that any surviving ORB’s for this squadron have been digitised and are available for only a few pounds from them. I found Jan-May for a squadron I was interested in and these were only about £3-4 per month IIRC.
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Amazing take away at post 16 above. “Super” mac?
Now found!!!!
Thanks to David Jackson of the The A J Jackson Collection at Brooklands Museum, I have wonderful photographs of Robert Smith Barry’s beloved Annabelle G-ABLP in both civilian and military guises. Your missing photograph is out there if you keep looking.
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There are 43 entries in the Airfiield Information Exchange forum search engine. Try also Wikipedia and the book Gloucestershire Airfields in the Second World War. This county based series of books for the UK is where I usually start.
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See also this thread on fuel additives:
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Re post 42
Do you mean Long Marston or South Marston? I ask for the benefit of those not absolutely au fait with dispersed Supermarine aircraft production in WW2? I suspect South Marston.
British Lead Additive Production
I suspect that the lower rating was the published pre-war figure and one would not advertise a massive engine improvement subsequently to one’s enemies.
As others have written the Battle of Britain was nearly completely won with US lead additive but the following may be of interest.
The following are my notes made about the Associated Octel plant Northwich and are based on commemorative history produced by the company “Making the magic bullet: a history of Northwich Works 1939-1986”
“During the 1920’s General Motors and Standard Oil (Esso) jointly developed anti-knock petrol additives through the Ethyl Gas Corporation. These compounds fractionally delay ignition of petrol/air mixtures in car and aircraft engines, allowing the engine to compress the mixture more, making the power levels higher. Britain first imported these compounds in 1928 and then throughout the 1930’s but with war looming decided that the RAF needed higher compression engines. From 1936 the Air Ministry worked with the joint partnership of the Associated Ethyl Company (importers) and ICI (manufacturers ) and eventually placed orders to build the Northwich site.
Two alkyl lead compounds, tetraethyl lead (TEL) or tetramethyl lead (TML), are used as antiknock gasoline additives. Only TEL was produced during the war. Lead alkyl is produced in autoclaves by the reaction of sodium/lead alloy with an excess of either ethyl (for TEL) or methyl (for TML) chloride in the presence of an acetone catalyst.
The first batch of TEL was produced in September 1940. Until then, the RAF fuel had been treated with imported TEL. The workforce was all drawn from ICI Winnington and Lostock, and was largely self-taught in controlling this new process.”
The 1930’s imports allowed Rolls Royce to deliver the power required for the Schneider Trophy power plants, and design engines with the required metallurgy to handle that power. The Merlin therefore had the TEL technology built in from the start.”
I cannot find my copy of Stephen Bungay’s book on the Battle of Britain but I think he may have some German reaction to this British advance. If anyone has any knowledge of the German pilot reactions to meeting Spitfires and Hurricanes suddenly performing better after the increase in octane rating from 87 to 100 it would be interesting to learn of them.
McKinstry Spitfire Portrait of a Legend p356 quotes F/L Ponsford as flying a Spitfire XIV (Griffon) with 150 octane fuel and IIRC the Sea Fury Centaurus is 130 octane rated, so development continued to the war’s end and beyond, with interesting other options including water and methanol injection to increase power output.
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Two points.
Firstly, for inspiration have a look at the work being done at East Fortune in the build of a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter to fly.
Second, RAFM reserve collection Stafford may have parts and drawings, however I have not checked.
Good luck
Brian,
Re 35 I am so grateful. Thank you in advance on behalf of (later) F/O Jeeves’ son.
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Westland Wallace K6039
This aircraft is mentioned in #19 above by JDK. I have access to the Flying log book of WOP/AG T.J Jeeves who attended No1 Signals School RAF Cranwell and flew in this aircraft on 7 and 12 January 1941. I see that a photograph of this aircraft does exist previously mentioned by Farlam Airframes at #1. Is there any chance of a copy or posting it here for me to pass on to his son, who loaned me his log book?
Thank you
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Mosquito armament
It was the fighter/bomber versions with 4×20 mm cannon and the 4x .303 that were so armed e.g. FB6 and FB26 (IIRC). Radar equipped dedicated nightfighters e.g. X1X, XXX as against night inftruder FB’s, were 4 x 20mm cannon only. The larger radar sets used up the nose where .303’s were housed in the FB’s.
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Starfish sites and discussion
Laurie Brettingham’s book Royal Air Force Beam Benders No. 80 (Signals Wing) 1940-1945 Midland publishing 1997 ISBN 1 85780 040 0 is not the first place you might look for this subject, but Starfish sites came under its direction. There are references to Scottish sites at Blane Valley, Condorrat, Dumbuck, and Kilpatrick Hills. This is a useful and very well researched book, although a complex read. 80 Wing deserves more attention thnit normally receives.
There may well be more assistance in the learned threads in Airfield Information Exchange, which has many local expert contributors.
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Update on the Sopwith One and a Half Stutter
This post is just to pay credit to the work of the Aviation Preservation Society of Scotland based inside the Museum of Flight at East Fortune. The guys spent some of their precious time today showing me the current work in progress on the build of the flying Sopwith One and a Half Strutter.
The enthusiasm, dedication and skill of this team is incredible. Their backgrounds and professions are not all in aircraft fabrication and shows that even teams staffed with non professionals can achieve high quality airworthy standard work.
The fuselage is largely complete as are the wings and the airbrakes (yes, this aircraft had them as well as an in-flight variable incidence tail plane). I saw the cowling mountings being fabricated today and apparently modifications have been approved to ensure the cowlings stay on better than they did originally. The fabric has been chosen for the recovering but will be expensive. I saw an experimental rig developed to prove the integrity of the tyre and rim configuration for side loading, which hopefully will satisfy the inspector on being tested. The modern Rotec 150hp engine has been selected and an engine mounting ring fabricated. However, neither is yet fitted.
They work in the old armoury building and greet all visitors with open arms, go to the Museum, but do and go and see them. Thank you gentlemen. You really made my day.
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