How about DH.60 Moth G-AUAE?
Was built as a Cirrus (c/n 192) to Aust as G-AUAE, later VH-UAE. Upgraded at some stage to a Gipsy. Impressed into RAAF in WWII as A7-88, survived, flying today as a DH.60G VH-UAE.
The two T.4s
501 and 502 both went to CFS at East Sale in Aust eventually.
I don’t have a complete record handy of either a/c, But have the following:
A84-502 (WT492) to 2 SQN at Amberley 28/5/56. In 4/57 to 6 SQN at Amberley (which became the OCU until 1 OCU formed in 1958), then to CFS. Eventually to RSTT Wagga for apprentice training, then to Historical Aircraft Restoration Society at St Marys, Sydney (unsure if connected to present HARS at Wollongong).
Now the two B.2 “pattern” aircraft for B.20 prodn WD939 and WD983 (which became A84-125 and -307) I know went to 2 SQN in late 1953/early 1954. At such early dates, I would presume they went straight to RAAF without prior RAF service. I guess the T.4s could be the same.
The credible eye witness account of a particular incident is so compelling in it’s aparent absurdity,
The supposed “credible eye witness account” by someone, told to somebody, then in turn related to someone else is hearsay.
With ANZAC day approaching the poppies on the walls are particularly dense
Growler, glad you didn’t try to show 460 SQN – over 1,000 names on those panels.
Excellent pics Growler – I had forgotten there were so many aircraft on display – and more out in storage at Mitchell at the AWM Annex.
You said: The other can best be compared to London’s Imperial War Museum, and is a collection of …
I think the displays at AWM are a lot better than IWM, plus the AWM also has that “memorial” aspect of a very special place.
A great aircraft collection – any visitors to Oz should visit here, and the RAAF Museum at Point Cook and the flying collection at Temora.
I have said before that I had thought 40 years ago the RAFM Hendon was the best national air force collection until I visited the USAFM at Wright-Patt. While not on these scales, the RAAFM is improving all the time. Well done Dave Gardner.
Quite right, but the “conspiracy” theories about TSR2 will never go away, will they?
TSR2’s systems were undeveloped, UK lagged US on electronics, and I’ve said before that because of this the aircraft was too heavy. It did not have the range of F-111 or carry as much, and certainly could not have been as versatile in adapting to roles as the RAAF showed.
The F-111K would have been great for the RAF, but while the Bucc was not an equal replacement, it certainly was loved by all who flew it.
DH/HS125….Dominie
HS748…..Andover
Boeing 737……T-43
DC-9……C-9 Nightingale
Boeing 747….E-4 ? plus VC-25 ?
DC-8…………E-8?
From “Fighter Nights – 456 Sqn RAAF” by J Bennett:
RAF Maintenance Command, like the other Commands, was divided into Groups.
No 40 Gp provided all non-explosive equipment, and maintained Aircraft Equipment Depots.
No 41 Gp received aircraft from factories, incorporated service modifications, and forwarded them to the squadrons.
No 42 Gp issued bombs and explosives.
No 43 Gp was responsible for all repairs that were beyond the capabilities of the squadrons.
Much of Defiant servicing was contracted to Reid & Sigrist Ltd at Desford Aerodrome, Leicester.
From the aircraft lists in the appendices, the following is evident:
Beaufighter repairs – 19, 27 and 32 MUs and Southern Aircraft
Mosquito repairs – 10, 13, 44, 71 and 218 MUs and de Havillands.
A8-126 allocated to the Museum at Amberley, I believe.
the question then is whether deterrence is military history
That’s not this issue James. It is a “war” memorial.
(Although a lot of the employees there would prefer to see it as a “peace” memorial.)
there’s an ‘A’ that should IMHO, go back to the US
Yep, forgot about that one.
It’s F-111C A8-113, that was originally F-111A 67-0113 that flew the last USAF mission in SE Asia. I believe it is being gifted to the US.
There’s a question as to why the Australian War Memorial hasn’t made a public commitment for one.
Moot point, but no real war history to justify an AWM acquisition. Flying a couple of photo recce missions over East Timor in 1999 is not really signifcant! Don’t get me wrong – I love the jet, but not as significant as Canberra/Caribou/Iroquois/Sioux (Vietnam). Probably one day a “classic” Hornet will go there because of its involvement in GWII 2003.
the RAAF has an escaped pod as used in a genuine emergency
That’s right – that was the wheelwell fire and ejection into Auckland Harbour. It will be retained for a museum.
The official version says that a(n Australian specific) F-111C is also to come to the RAAF Museum.
One F-111C will go to the RAAFM, and one also is slated for the Museum at RAAF Amberley. Perhaps one more as a gate guard at Amberley. That might be about it.
I rather the money go the foreigners for good products than to inefficient govt employees.
Well said Samsara. DRDO/ADA – how long did LCA take? Go with the foreigners, but you will get a better deal with the Yanks than with the Ruskies.
Are these both recoveries from PNG???
P-38 is from PNG. I think the P-39 is from Cape York (far northern Queensland). Both USAAF.
Beavers
Aussie Beavers in the Antarctic: A95-201 (1956) and A95-202 (1959)