Why didn’t the Australians have high altitude interceptors during the Cold War. Has the threat from nuclear attack always been particularly low? I could see something along the lines of the F-106A being warranted if such a threat had existed. I was always surprised that they had nothing even remotely close to that capability. Even towards the end of the Cold War was there no interest in say the Tornado F-series?
MadRat – I have no idea what you are on?? Just plz give a clue what you are talking about.
Australia only leased 24 of them to replace the F-111C whilst they await the F-35A being delivered so they have in fact done the same as Canada in selecting the F-35A as their primary future warplane (Just they needed a stopgap as cover !)
Not so Geoff B. No lease (we had done that previously with F-4Es), we have purchased 24 F/A-18Fs because of the gap between withdrawing F-111 and the continued delay with F-35A. In fact, this is really an each-way bet as 12 have been pre-wired for EF-18G, so will probably be retained when F-35A finally gets IOC around 2018/19, and possibly the other SHs could be kept too.
If there are further delays and problems with F-35A, we could easily get more superbugs – my original point to Voodoo, if you already have Hornet, easy to integrate SH. Furthermore, my point of all eggs in one basket with F-35A.
As for the super bug, I think it’s a good jet, but as we are stepping up our commitments, I think we should have the best for our forces. Now i’m not saying the F-35 is the best…. Far from it. But it will be in use with lot’s of countries for a long time. Voodoo
Voodoo, I appreciate where you’re coming from, but I don’t share any enthusiasm for F-35. As you would be aware, in Aus we replaced F-111 with F/A-18F (some pre-wired for Growler) and the conversion of bug pilots was very easy. The SH slid into the inventory very quickly, and with AESA radar will provide a good bridge until F-35 is (if) finally ready – I hate the “all eggs in one basket” that holding out for F-35 presents. While Canada’s situation with only the one FJ to replace is different, I still see this as being the most cost effective and safest option to incrementally replace CF-188. For FJ back-seaters, UK now has plenty to spare, RAAF may loan some to you, and you can always tap into your big ally to the south.
Also, when did South Africa retire its T-6s?
And Spain and Portugal used them into the 70s.
And NZ flew Harvards – what, till the 80s?
I think the original question was hoping to unravel P-51 or B-26 operators – like the Central Americans up to the 70s/80s – but alas, don’t think there are anymore. :rolleyes: Are still C-47 operators of course.
Agreed.
First thing is testing FCS, Aerodynamics and engine performance.
Second, the very same.
3rd prototype could have more systems.
And it all progress from there.
No, second in China is a ground test vehicle.
3rd prob more FCS, aerodynamics and engine performance.
4th, 5th and 6th will probably be systems, weapons etc.
At the edge at 11 o’clock look like a complex of apartments. Doesn’t look UK-ish, poss France, prob Germany.
just a thaught but could it be australian ??
No, it’s MW173 “Zipper”, SEAC markings. The Australian one was MW140 “Endeavour” which was ferried out in 1945.
Will they ever get the J-20 to land on a carrier – I don’t see why not…
J-20 doesn’t necessarily have to be carrier capable to be operated by the PLANAF. Look at the current size of the PLANAF with no carriers!!
I would think carrier ops more for J-10 and J-11 – J-20 may be possible, but practically may be too big.
it become clear that the J-20 was intended to replace all ageing/obsolete Chinese aircrafts (J-7/J-8) = 400 to 600+ aircrafts to be replaced
While I agree generally with your orbat figures, I do not believe “it becomes clear that the J-20 was intended to replace all ageing/obsolete Chinese aircraft (J-7/J-8)”.
J-20 is the upper tier fighter, to be supported by J-11/Su-27/-30 and J-10. The ageing J-7 will be replaced by continued production of J-10, and the J-8 by the J-11. Probably 200-400 J-20 will be sufficient for PLAAF and PLANAF.
Have you been getting too much sun? I reckon the first two are Walrus.
Wrong Mike. Don’t argue with JDK. First two are Seagull V, built to a RAAF spec which preceded the Walrus. So now you know.
The Spitfire in the Marshall hanger looks to me to be a Mark VIII/IX, with a four bladed prop, six exhaust stubs and no trace of code numbers. Is this the Col Pay/Temora example?
No Growler, as I posted above it was MV154, which was exported to UK.
Syd had a second Spit VIII (MV239) packed in a crate in his backyard (as you would), and this was the one that was eventually sold to Col Pay in 1983 to become VH-HET (then later to Temora).
I remember seeing an ABC TV B&W interview with Clive Caldwell in Syd’s backyard, beside Bankstown aerodrome, in the early 60s with both Spits still in their crates. Then shortly afterwards, I remember Syd assembling MV154 at Bankstown in about 1963 to wheel out onto the grass for we keen photographers. Definitely happy days 🙂
Syd Marshall’s hangar
The Bf109G-6 was caught by Customs being illegally exported from Aus (probably by some unscrupulous Brit :D) and is now the one displayed at the AWM.
The Spit just visible in the last pic is MV154, Spit VIII, which ended up in UK 🙁 in 1979 to become a flyer G-BKMI.
There appears to be a bort number on the aircraft in this pic, which hasn’t appeared in any of the previous photos so far. Has the bort number been recently added or is there more than one prototype?
Bort no 2001 appears on post #65.
Here’s a new one
Did he do that so “Poodle” could get some more time in one?
No, Poodle doesn’t fly the “Sword”. But it was a good initiative by Shep to get -983 flying again. No conspiracy theory or jobs for the boys. Just pragmatism.