This is a PAKFA thread and NOT a windows thread,you should take all this to a windows forum. Are all 5 PAKFA flying at this time,any plans to send them to Ashtubinsk soon? Still no new high res photos of 055?

This years production is quite impressive 69 fixed wing combat aircraft- 44 heavy fighters+20 light fighters for VVS and 4 medium fighters for VMF+1 Pakfa. 108+ helicopters- 39 dedicated attack helos+ 63 Mi8M transport/secondary attack capability+4 heavy cargo+4 light helos+ unknown number of Ka226,all of this build in 2013,thats more combat aircraft than many nato countries have in their entire inventory. For comparision the entire attack helicopter fleet of Germany is 21 Tigers, France has 34 Tigers,Italy has around 35 A129 Mangusta, Australia has 22 Tigers and Spain has 6 Tigers
Ulan Ude is on a roll,51 Mi8 produced in a single year great job, once Ulan Ude starts building Su25UBM they will probably build 25+ a year.
New video talks about and show this years production from Progress, KNAAPO, IAPO, NAPO, Ulan Ude and Ulianovsk production plants.
Picture from KNAAZ showing last batch of Su35 and Su30M2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV48QWHSxEY
Based on recent events Russia could use another war in chechnia and dagestan to clean the area of these militants and their supporters, hopefully some of these combat aircraft will be used in a future war there.

A great summary of what has been delivered so far, thanks Charly015 via Viktor @russiadefence. Initially the vehiculated numbers were 86 aircraft and 100 helos (not clear if only new aircraft or including upgrades), so far 76 new aircraft and 109 helos have been identified as delivered or handed over:

– 12 Su-35S
– 14 Su-34
– 14 Su-30SM
– 4 Su-30M2
– 2 MiG-29K
– 2 MiG-29KUB
– 20 Yak-130
– 3 An-140-100
– 1 An-148-100
– 3 L410UVP-E20
– 1 Tu-214ON

– 14 or 17 Ka-52
– 14 Mi-28
– 8 Mi-35
– 4 Mi-26
– 53 Mi-8AMTSh
– 10 Mi-8MTV-5
– 6 Ansat-U

In addition to the above list, planned upgrades due to be delivered this year (not sure how many delivered so far) that i can identify are:
-10 MiG-31BM
– 4 Su-33
– 2 Su-27SM3 (reportedly postponed to first part of 2014)
– 2 Tu-95MSM
– at least 1 Il-38N.

Like i said above, things are still not clear regarding Su-25SM (and potentially new built UBM), Su-24M-SVP24, maybe Tu-22M3M, A-50U AEW not to mention special aviation platforms (like Mi-8MTPR-1 and Il-20M/22M etc.), transports/tankers and navy helos/aircraft (Ka-27M? new Be-200?), there must be a sizable quantity of them too.

Corrections welcomed.

PS: Oh and thanks Berkut for explaining what is “pokazuha”.:)

Russian VVS recently received 17 Ka52 built in 2013,with 17 new Ka52 added this year there should be 40+ serial production Ka52 built now, can anyone confirm the total number of serial Ka52 built by end of 2013?
Also large number of Mi28,Mi35 and Mi17 delivered to Russian VVS recently, can anyone confirm the total number of serial Mi28,Mi35 and Mi17 built this year?
Good news also from Irkutsk, this year Irkutsk has exceeded their planned production and manufactured 14 Su30SM and 18 Yak130 in 2013,Irkutsk has planned to make 10 Su30SM this year but made 14,good job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rOQ4_jLVgk

How much is KNAAZ Complete batch? So KNAAZ will deliver about 12 Su35 sometime this month,in January or later? I whounder where KNAAZ keeps the 10 or so Su35 they build this year,they must take up a lot of space? Why does KNAAZ not deliver them 3 at a time like NAPO or Irutsk does this seems like a much more logical system?

You don’t understand this is when Russian officials try to deny or conseal information such as when the existence of the Pakfa was denied before 2010 and like Pogosyan is denying the LMFS is being developed now which possibly LMFS might very well might be secretly and not to lie and exaggerate the potential capability of systems that’s something the Chinese like to do not Russia.
However it is confirmed that the Pakfa was designed from the outset to defeat the F22 and to be superior to it in air to air combat and therefore it was designed to have a frontal RCS of no greater than the F22 and that was one of the key requirements of the Pakfa program. While at the same time Pakfa having the advantage over the F22 in having more powerful and modern avionics and sensors an advanced OLS IRST system with 3 optical sensors and an extremely powerful N036-1-01 1500 tr module main X band aesa radar which will quite likey use Gan technology amplyfying its power even more along with 4-5 other auxiliary aesa radars including low wavelength L band radar arrays on the wing’s leading edge extensions which are designed to detect vlo targets more effectively and the data from the Pakfa 5 radar X and L band radar network is combined with the data of the OLS 3 optical sensors and this unified data processing of the X- and L-band signals and OLS enable the system’s information to be significantly enhanced by the Pakfa very powerful computer systems while the F22 single radar is a product of mid 90’s tech and the F22 uses an antiquated mid 90’s central computer which chipset that has power something equivalent to a 90’s era desktop Intel Pentium 1. This gives the Pakfa a great advantage over the F22 and also 15+ of advancement in avionics, radar and ols irst tech over the F22. Also the argument of the Pakfa having no S ducts is invalid and lame,the Russain Su47 which was actually the first Russian stealth fighter prototype has s ducts and internal weapons bay and s ducts were not used on the Pakfa because Sukhoi found a more modern and much more efficient solution of using radar blockers and compressor blades coated with a ceramic radar absorbent material.

Yet you so confidently present such casual claims (on RCS for example) as unimpeachable.

Any new high res pictures of T50 055? Have not seen any new pictures of it since mid November? Are all 5 Pakfa currently flying and active and how many flights has T50 055 made so far?

No its the other way around, Lockmart is unable and has not build yet nor will anytime soon anything close to the Pakfa. Pakfa is a generation ahead of the F22 in most areas including avionics such as having 5 or 6 aesa radars vs just 1 for F22 and F35. Pakfa has a very advanced multiple OLS system with 3 main optical sensors and is no worse than and probably better than the F35 optical system,F22 has no OLS at all and no proper datalink. Pakfa ECM is also a generation ahead of that obsolete 90’s tech avionics of the F22 vs 2010’s avnionics of Paka.
Ahaaha you actually believe kinematic performance is irrelevant now just because of fancy avionics wow talk about hyper delusional line of thinking, well unfortunately Pakfa has much more powerful avionics than F35 as well.
Superior kinematics, performance and maneuverability mean
1 Pakfa can chose when and where to engage and disengage and Pakfa will have a service operational sealing of more than 15,000+ft above F35 as well.
2 Pakfa superior kinematic performance and operational altitude advantage means much greater missile energy, missile speed, range and maneuvering capacity at range for the same type of missiles and much greater hit probability especially versus the F35 which has such abysmal kinematic performance and very poor maneuverability means it will be a sitting duck for advanced next gen Russian missles with aesa seekers and quite likely ramjet engines that Pakfa will use.
3Pakfa far superior kinematic performance, sustained cruise and maximum speed, maneuverability and altitude advantage means it will easily be able to outrun and outmaneuver a missile fired by a slow medium altitude fighter bomber such as a F35 and in most cases operating at a altitude disadvantage.
4Pakfa far superior kinematic performance and maneuverability also give it vast superiority in WVR combat and with large scale aerial warfare being quite chaotic and fast closing speeds of modern fighters it will also be a quite probable scenario within a large aerial conflict.

Sukhoi is still unable to built something like the F-35 and is restricted to something like a dated F-22A. The days of kinematics are surpassed by the avionics since the 90s at least. All the less informed ones are limited to raw numbers. In the meanwhile the F-35 is close to the F-22A in bulding cost and none get the idea to built that for the F-35A at least. Stupid people or just better informed ones?!

It is gestimated data and you can spin it anyway you want it,it won’t change reality. Well the Pakfa 5 radar complex with a much larger and much more powerful front radar will definitely have much better low rcs detection capability and be able to detect low rcs target at significantly longer range than the tiny Agp81,I assure you that %100. Not also is Agp 81 much smaller and weaker than the Pakfa front radar never mind front radar+4 other radars but Agp81 is dated early 2000′ tech while Pakfa radar is based on 2010’s technology of a decade later and production version of Pakfa radars will likely use Gan amplifying its power even more.

Engine power of a certain power range such as 68,000lb of thrust range is needed to divert enough power to generators to power the immense power needed to power Pakfa 5 or 6 radars,F35 single engine cannot divert the needed amount of energy or not even close to the generators needed to power Pakfa 5 or 6 radars or even the main front radar. To power modern avionics you need immense engine power and no “engineering solution” or super drive generators will enable a fighter with weak engines to use very powerful avionics you need powerful engines and this is common knowledge so your point is bull.

kinematic performance, maneuverability and speed is as important as it has ever been and explained why countless times but since you still don’t understand that shows that unfortunately despite all the fancy talk at the core you and Sens are quite thick on the subject.

The figure of Pakfa rcs being 1/40 of Su27 is pure bull, more like 1/500 of Su 27 front rcs. Pakfa front rcs as stated as a design goal by its developers Sukhoi was stated as the size of a small marble. Where did you get this absurd figure source? probably f16.net I am sure you are an avid fan of the crap that is written there, just shows how biased you are that you post and belive in such rubbish.
Well unfortunately for you and Lockmart since you seem to belive most of their propaganda, Lockmarts track record of saying flat out lies and total misinformation is worse than any other company I know, used car salesman and home have better credibility than Lockmart Martin.

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There is still very little reliable information on the Russian radar suite, and even less on how good the its underlying technology is, particularly its likely ability to detect low-RCS targets. Much the same goes for the APG-81. So in a forum such as this, we have no idea of which aircraft would be the first to achieve detection and lock-on in various forms of T-50 versus F-35 engagement.

We should not over-estimate Russian electronics technology. Remember that in the late 1990s, some Russian missile seekers relied on commercial-grade integrated circuits of US origin.

What on earth does engine thrust have to do with electrical power output? The amount of energy tapped off to drive generators is not a fixed value for all models of engine – it is an engineering decision.

Such figures are good for the Guinness Book of Records, but like the stuff about the Tu-160 that you insist in ‘SHOUTING’ at us in your sig line, they say little about real-world combat capability.

Time will tell if you are right. But as I have already said, in practice, victory in a T-50 v F-35 engagement will probably go to the aircraft that is first to achieve target detection and BVR missile launch.

And the manufacturer of my camera claims that its lenses have a higher performance than the equivalent lenses of rival manufacturers. To paraphrase the immortal words of Mandy Rice-Davies “They would say that, wouldn’t they?” When a company starts comparing its product to that of a rival, they have moved from the realm of engineering to that that of advertising.

All that Sukhoi can do is to compare that RCS anticipated for the production F-50 with the estimated RCS they have obtained by testing models of the F-35. However, the usefulness of the resulting figure will depend on the degree to which they have predict the details of the way that low-observable technology has been applied. And stealth is an area where the devil really is in the details.

The only figure for T-50 RCS I have seen is 1/40 that of the Su-27, which is not too impressive a figure. A reduction of 1/100 would be needed to give a 2/3 reduction in radar detection range.

45 million $ for that tiny little 14,000lb single engine trainer wow what a ripoff, by comparison 1 Su34 heavy long range strike fighter bomber cost Russia only about 34 million $ and a Yak130 trainer/light fighter about 15 million $

No.

The “chain” and all support and training and parts etc.. are covered by a SEPARATE $1Bn contract.

The $45M is JUST for airframe.